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I keep reading the worst about cyberpunk on hn but when my soulmate played it (on pc) they really enjoyed it and only stumbled upon very few bugs. As for seizures apparently it had a warning at the start about them.

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The console versions are supposedly significantly worse than PC, to the point of being unplayable

4-5 hours through on a ps4 and it crashed twice, with one or two graphics glitches. Im really enjoying it and think it looks amazing, but then again I walk around slowly so maybe missing the rendering issues.

Obviously though there are some issues effecting some players far more than others, could have got lucky.

I'm playing it on an Xbox Series X and have only run into a couple bugs that weren't game-breaking.

What surprises me is how lackluster the visuals are compared to last-gen games like Horizon Zero Dawn and Ghost of Tsushima. I'm playing both on a PS4 Pro and Cyberpunk doesn't hold a candle to either of them graphically.

I just finished playing The Witcher 3 on Xbox and feel Cyberpunk is far far below the visual quality of The Witcher. Partly because the HDR is so washed out, but there simply isn't nearly as much detail to it.

The game looks gorgeous on PC. Probably doesn't look as good on the consoles.

It seems to me that PS4 version has to be significantly worse than Xbox version because otherwise I don't see where the issue comes from.

I play it on Xbox one S and don't experience any kind of game breaking bugs. On the other hand at least on XB one S the first loading screen is completely messed up which makes one question how that could possibly pass Microsoft's QA.

> As for seizures apparently it had a warning at the start about them.

Added post-release with a patch after seizures have been reported in news.

It was added before release, but after review copies had went out. AFAIK, only one person had a seizure from it.

This is not true. I played it at launch and there were no warnings and contained the seizure inducing Brain Dance sequence. It was fixed about 3 days into me owning it.

I believe the seizure warning was added in patch 1.04

From what I can tell, people are inconvenienced by some bugs on PC, but they're extremely obvious on the old generation of consoles.

They also changed the part that caused the said seizures. It was because of a blinking light in a part of the game but that was changed.

The press coverage for Cyberpunk seems to be far worth than what you usually see for games similarly bugged at release, especially for a game with good review on PC.

Then again, it's a Polish game from a studio with no American office and apparently with little regard for the current trend in American culture (cue The Guardian review). I didn't really expect less.

> it's a Polish game from a studio with no American office and apparently with little regard for the current trend in American culture (cue The Guardian review)

The Guardian righty criticized Cyberpunk for misogyny and xenophobia. The idea that these concerns are just some quirk of Anglo-American culture which is alien to Poles is an idiotic, offensive, condescending assertion which manages to be equally wrong about both America and Poland.

Honestly, the criticisms about misogyny and xenophobia that I've read (and I've read a lot of them) are extremely low-effort and bland. The story of the game and it's environment is strikingly negative about what is happening and doesn't for even one moment dip into approval. Of course, this is easy to miss if you just spend 30m looking around and all you see is a corporate hellscape.

Both The Guardian reviewer and yourself, must've not played the game through. The Guardian mentions misogyny in context to female sex workers (in the game "dolls"), but the reality is that there's an equal amount of male "dolls" within the main storyline (at Clouds) and throughout the game.

And if there is any misogyny displayed within the game, it's from scumbag characters. Emphasizing that the attitude/perspective is rooted in scumbag thinking.

I read the comment you just flipped out over as suggesting that the developers weren't tuned into to the current performative hypersensitivity and outrage that is fashionable among members of the American Left and those who pander for their clicks — not that Poles as a people are somehow more misogynistic or xenophobic than Americans.

Wow, thanks for pointing out that review, I really needed a laugh this morning.

"This fictional dystopian future isn't politically correct!"

I wonder how much of that criticism is due to them not being an American company with chummy friends to those reviewers. The amount of negativity for some aspects is very wierd, especially when you compare it to the other years blockbuster: Call of Duty Cold War.

CoD features an all white male cast, there's no whiff of female or LGBTQ representation. It's also horrifyingly xenophobic and repaints the history in a grossly nationalistic manner. Those were all issues that were brought up in connection to Cyberpunk even though that game is significantly less horrible in every aspect.

And yet somehow that wasn't a problem for CoD at all when dishing out ratings.

Since when is Call of Duty so based? Count me in for a copy

Reviewers aren't stupid enough to piss off the CoD crowd.

I enjoy CoD games, but all those issues you mentioned are selling point for the game. Look at what happened to The Last of Us 2, then multiply that by 1000 because CoD players are much more militant in their beliefs that the "PC police" are taking the fun out of everything.

> LGBTQ representation

Cyberpunk was not well received by the population it was trying to cater to with its customizable genitalia.

https://jygglypuffdaddy.com/2020/12/11/an-almost-exhaustive-...

Given the behaviour outlined in the post, I'm not sure if that is the population they were trying to cater to - and if it was, it doesn't look like they tried very hard.

Cyberpunk 2077 had a budget of over $300M the flack it's getting is because CDPR is no longer some small time studio that is known for good attitude towards DRM and a very long term support for it's titles.

When your game development costs outclass that of GTA 5 and probably in the ballpark of RDR2 and you release this mess after delaying the game by a WHOLE YEAR you'll get flack because you deserve it not because you are Polish.

That's not what the flack in various reviews is about. Read some of them on metacritic. The GP is right, those who rated it low often didn't do it because of the bugs, but because of "this near-future dystopia shows people having to make desperate decisions to survive." .. yeah, thanks. Who would've thought.

> The GP is right, those who rated it low often didn't do it because of the bugs, but because of "this near-future dystopia shows people having to make desperate decisions to survive." .. yeah, thanks

Can you point to such reviews? Of course, random people on reddit or your family don't count, since GGP mentioned media.

https://www.theguardian.com/games/2020/dec/16/cyberpunk-2077...

I read the whole review. I cannot find anything in there that matches what you said.

No on takes The Guardian seriously... the sex and violence isn't what people are complaining about, TW3 had plenty of that and there plenty of kooks that complained that middle ages central Europe didn't had enough diversity despite the fact that it's a fantasy setting with a bunch of other races...

It's frankly absurd that people are trying to pin this on the media. In the past two weeks, CD Project Red:

- Told gamers the game "runs surprisingly well on consoles", which is very euphemistic to say the least

- Didn't give reviewers any review codes for the consoles, meaning console players could only find out about the game's horrid performance on consoles on launch date

- Didn't allow reviewers to post their own footage for the first review embargo, meaning the first wave of reviews only had B-Roll ad footage from CDPR

- After they were caught with their pants down wrt console performance, told customers they could get a refund without consulting the platform, so Sony was stuck holding up a deal they didn't know about

CDPR used every scummy tactic in the book, and yet still got glowing reviews from the press: the game has an 87 on Metacritic right now, and it had a 90 for a few days after launch. Most reviewers praised the game and expected the bugs to be patched. In fact, in my experience the media has been far more positive about the game than actual players! And this is after they failed to deliver on several core promises. It is honestly hilarious that fans of the game are trying to pin the well deserved negative reaction from the general audience on the media.

(And I do have to point out the incredibly funny move of trying to pin this as a "culture war" thing. Yeah, people hate the game because of "SJWs", not because CDPR literally lied to their customers multiple times. Great deflection tactic.)

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