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CloudLinux Promises a CentOS Replacement

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We'll see if people trust them more than https://rockylinux.org/ I'm surprised they'd start their own project after original CentOS people created Rocky.

As I understand, CloudLinux has been around for a while (initial release in 2010 [1]).

Rocky Linux is yet to get started.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CloudLinux_OS

CloudLinux has been around, but Lenix or whatever the new name will be is yet to get started as well.

You need to go through the community for every step of the decision when it's community driven, so I see it's easy for someone to run their own version if they have a clear vision.

I hope they find a way to join forces, and sooner the better.

How do they do that? They both patch themselves up based on RHEL releases and not going to do manual engineering.

They’ve indicated a willingness to sponsor a million dollars a year and set up a committee. The committee may decide that the best way to that goal is to direct that funding towards a community fork led by one of the original maintainers of CentOS.

Does "Lenix" seem like an unfortunate name, or is it just me?

I don’t think it’s just you. I tensed up a little when I first saw the name as well.

They say, it is a temporary place holder name.

IDGI, it's just a name.

Why is everyone missing the obvious replacement: Oracle Linux

It is superior to CentOS in a lot of ways:

- A lot less delay releasing (rebuilding) RHEL updates compared with CentOS (specially important for security updates)

- Free to use and distribute like CentOS

- You have access to optional support

- You can install UEK that has BTRFS and a unlocks a whole new kernel generation to RHEL base

It was better than CentOS for years. You can switch from CentOS with a script that updates your repos and that's it.

And second: CentOS Stream is not that bad ideia. Why way to long for fixes/updates? It is and will continue to be slow, just not super-slow.

I don't think anyone is missing that one. Many people just don't want to trust Oracle in this case - if CentOS can pull the rug from under them, Oracle will likely do at some point too.

> CentOS Stream is not that bad ideia.

It may not be for your usecase, but lots of CentOS users wanted to be on one version for years and not have to care about it.

They're not waiting for updates - they don't want any updates in the first place. (As long as security fixes get included)

And staying on a version with CS is not possible? No one forces you to update.

Stream is a rolling release. As far as I understand it, you can't say "update, but only critical fixes within a release". If they update a major version of something, your options are: update it, or stop receiving fixes for it. You won't be able to both get those fixes and not do major version updates.

Kind of like Fedora rawhide, but more stable.

Isn’t Oracle based on RedHat sources? A few years ago I believe RH stopped releasing individual changesets on kernel patches to make life hard for Oracle and Amazon. What’s stopping RH from doing more extreme things like hiding SRPM metadata and other obfuscation around packaging?

I wouldn't touch anything that's even remotely tied to Oracle with a 10ft pole.

> We will provide stable and well-tested updates until 2029 - completely free

This is the important sentence most of the users want to hear.

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