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Yes, Apple's current lineup is a little confusing. The 13" Pro and 13" Air are so similar, and almost the same weight.

I still use a 12" MacBook, and it's just amazingly small and light. If Apple makes a 12" MacBook with a M1, it would be awesome. A dream machine for me.

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> M1

I don't have any insider knowledge but I am fully convinced (and so are many others) that we will see a newer Apple ARM based processor before the end of 2021. If you are a programmer and you have a machine to work on, I'd say hold out for the next one.

Apple hardware resells extremely well and if you don't want to deal with the hassle of reselling privately you can can also trade it in for a decent return.

If you're not on a super tight budget it's not terrible to just pick up the new machine and swap it out for the next one that ships if you want to.

In my mind the resell value of intel macbooks dropped significantly with the M1 release. Not sure if that's reflected in the second hand market already, but I think it will.

I'm curious about this too. I actually think it won't because even with the huge amount of marketing for this new chip that apple is doing, the average consumer doesn't explicitly care about the cpu.

Agreed! Even dreamier if they bring back the magsafe and upgrade to the current keyboard with function keys.

> If Apple makes a 12" MacBook with a M1, it would be awesome.

I wish Apple would make everything" MacBooks with M1. I hate that I have to wait another year or whatever for a 15/16" screen and will have to pay a measurable weight penalty to get it when nothing stops them from making a 15" ultralight model now that they don't need fans for stunning performance.

They might go with a processor bump for the 15”. And maybe more thermal headroom and an external GPU. Hard to predict.

But most people don't need or even care about those things. Making the MB or Air body bigger (not thicker) and just increasing screen, battery, and heatsink size proportionally while keeping it fanless would knock everything else out today for like 99% of people.

I am typing this on M1 Air, and it's noticeably smaller and lighter than our 2013 MB Air. I'd say that in terms of size it's quite close to 12" Mb which we owned previously, and maybe just a tiny bit heavier.

> I'd say that in terms of size it's quite close to 12" Mb which we owned previously

If true, then neither are close to the 2017 12" MB.

> and maybe just a tiny bit heavier.

It's almost a pound heavier.

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