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It is because of huge immigration and extremely poor integration which has lead to lots of segregation which is now manifesting in violence and crime.

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You made quite a few big leaps there. Care to expand how all those are linked and immigration is therefore the cause of violence and crime?

Well, for obvious reasons no one in Sweden wants to maintain clear crime statistics that would capture perpetrators' backgrounds, but there's this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45269764

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50339977

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_in_Sweden#Birthplace_of_p...

Sweden has taken in way more immigrants than our systems can swallow, this means the system as a whole is leaking. This has lead to lots of segregated areas where there is no future, just people living on welfare getting nowhere in life, as much as 60% of kids fail to even finish High School in these areas, even thou they get 3x-4x of the funding compared to other schools in "good areas". And you get NOWHERE in Sweden without education.

The vast majority of the immigrants is also men which has skewed the male/female ratio in certain age groups.

The violence we see now is mainly from second-generation immigrants because they have no real connection with their home country and they have no real connection with Sweden either since they have grown up in areas where there are no Swedes.

These aimless young men + a system that have failed them + a fast growing gangster culture that promises money and respect + no real consequences for young criminals (4years max for murder, rape is a couple of months maybe if anything at all) leads to a very fast growing criminal networks / gangs.

The gangs now also have an endless supply of young men willing to do whatever it takes since we a constantly taking in more people even thou the system is showing no signs of being better at integration people.

I wanna be very clear thou, this is not due to race/skin-color or other racist bullshit, it is simply input vs output, ANY system in the known universe that gets overburden crashes or starts behaving in unfavourable ways and that is where we are now.

How do you think this situation could best be remedied?

By pulling the break, give the system time to adjust and come up with efficient ways of integrating the people already in the country and when we start to see positive numbers then we can start taking in more people again.

Not parent but I think there is no efficient remedy. The shift in Swedish demographics are so significant that we are basically in a new era.

I just checked sweden's sentence lengths. The penalty for rape is 4-10 years and murder is often 10+ years.

Atleast that part of your claims is wrong.

I wrote "young criminals" I should be more clear, the gangs often use people below the age of 18 to commit murders since you then you get 4 years juvenil but are usually out before that due to 2/3 rule. There is even a saying in these circles: "Att brösta en 4:a för att bli en 100-gubbe" meaning Do the 4 years and become a 100-man, in other words commit a murder and you get respect and will be taken care of when you get out.

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