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>the Sony WH-1000XM3 is already a relatively good closed headphone

It is not. It is a great Bluetooth/NC headphone but certainly not a good closed one compared to other closed back phones specifically built for passive isolation. It is also targeted at consumers.

Have you actually tried the HD280PRO I specifically talked about? It is a professional headphone that is very popular with drummers for a reason.

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You're arguing with someone who said the Sony headphones are relatively good, and saying they are not because there are better headphones out there? Also, you're arguing with someone who claims they are satisfied with the Sony headphones? Should they not be satisfied?

All I am saying is that NC should not be seen as the holy grail. If you look at my original comment I just said

1. Buy a good pair of closed back headphones 2. Take them on a flight 3. Make your choice

If AFTER you have done this, you still prefer NC (and are willing to pay it) then fine by me.

> It is also targeted at consumers i smell audiophile

I own the xm3, i own the Beyerdynamic DT770 which is way more popular with studios and drummers; passive isolation vs ANC is not even a discussion

I own xm3, DT770 and HD280 (and several other headphones). The difference in passive isolation between DT770 and HD280 is night and day.

But maybe this is just me :-)

I noticed their website mentions up to 32 dB attenuation. What does this mean in practice? A set of 3M Peltor X5 earmuffs have only 31 dB NRR, and NRR is a standard metric for ear protection. The Sennheisers don’t look anywhere near as isolating as the 3M muffs. Personally I use the construction earmuffs for drumming.

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