Inequality is one thing, but when you're forced out on to the street to starve to death and there's nothing you can do to improve your situation that's totally different.
It just blows me away that (part of) Congress has stonewalled any attempts to get people money, given the lockdowns. Reportedly there are millions of people going on public assistance soon. This could get really, really ugly after that.
Socialist is a toxic insult in the GOP party, and it's how they painted the Democrats in Florida, as well as AOC and Bernie.
Meanwhile they have grandkids so I don't really understand why they wouldn't support environmental policies. They're basically brainwashed by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh's talk radio show.
A reminder that Nancy Pelosi turned down a $1 trillion+ stimulus offer from the White House.
Trump makes $1.8 trillion economic relief offer, but deal with Pelosi remains elusive (Oct 09 2020)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/10/09/trump-ec...
Nancy Pelosi blasts the White House's $1.6 trillion stimulus plan, saying it's not even 'half a loaf' (Oct 01 2020)
https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-blasts-white-ho...
OSHA regulations and “census worker relief” need to be tied into this specific funding bill? Really?
Gotta be pretty damn desperate to risk a felony for a little over an hour's wages, especially when that theft requires actual work.
Source; fellow 08 Prius owner.
Starve to death?
I've been there, decades ago, and that's not how it went down for me.
Senate. House has passed stimulus packages. IMO further delineation is deserved, but contentious, so I'll leave it at that.
https://www.newsweek.com/pelosi-says-she-backs-smaller-stimu...
Oh, except for a hearing pushing hydroxychloroquine in November, months after multiple studies had shown it ineffective, and a hearing promoting an anti-vaxer just last week. And I guess a bunch of hearings a few months ago wherein various GOP senators heaped ignorant abuse on public health officials.
If your favorite small business goes under, if your local hospital collapses, if your town goes bankrupt, etc., the institutional GOP and its donors are to blame.
We can all keep our fingers crossed for Georgia Senate runoffs, and for some real leadership come January.
It was politically driven: Democrats were afraid of giving Trump a win. Perhaps it was good politics, since it seems to have worked.
From Newsweek: "Despite a refusal for roughly the past six months to advance a smaller aid package that she deemed 'half a loaf,' House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is now willing to support a bipartisan stimulus bill worth less than half her previous demand thanks to, in part, Joe Biden's victory.
> takes two to tango
Indeed, without any action from the Senate, the House is stuck. Again, we should all be hoping for good results in the GA runoffs, or Congress will remain unable to address any of our serious challenges ahead.
The 2 years from 2009–2010 were pretty much the only substantially functional Congress in a generation, and would have accomplished a great deal more if they hadn’t also had to deal with a worldwide economic crisis.
It didn't pass it, unlike the House and HEROES. The Senate could have acted on the passed House bill. The House had no bill from the Senate to take up, since the Senate bill died in (Republican-led) committee.
The House is the only one on the dance floor.
And Nancy Pelosi may have opposed the Republican position in negotiations, but Nancy Pelosi has no control on what the Senate passes.
Suddenly, after the election, Pelosi is fine passing the same amount she opposed before the election as only half what was necessary.
This isn't some right-wing talking point -- Bernie Sanders has sad as much. This was a political game.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fact-check-did-berni...
Putting even the milquetoast HEALS act up for a vote would have put some of their members in a conflicted spot trying to both appear to care about the crisis while still appeasing hard-liner donors/supporters.
If the Senate had brought the HEROES Act as passed by the House to the floor, it might well have passed. But McConnell & friends didn’t want to see a relief bill passed, so they were satisfied to leave it off the agenda altogether.
Gee, I wonder what happened in November for her to change her mind...
I'll stop responding now; it's pretty clear a number of folks on HN think that only one party can play political games and this has gotten trite.
Nancy Pelosi is surely also upset that we can’t do something more aggressive, but anything at all would be better than nothing (and we might still be stuck with nothing this year). We’re in an extraordinarily severe crisis, and people, small businesses, and state/local governments have been in urgent need of relief for months.
Even jaded political veterans expected some action from the Senate these past 7 months, under the circumstances. But what we have seen again and again in recent years is that even when we lower the bar down to the floor, they still manage to trip over it.
Correction: slither under it. They don't get over it, even by tripping.
It was milquetoast, but not primarily because of the dollar amount (which is, though, inadequate as anything other than a partial stopgap and bridge), but because of substantive provisions.
Actually, its often a significant part of the political process of building popular and, thereby, legislative support for a solution (which will ultimately often be a compromise from the DOA proposal.)
And, in a bicameral legislature, taking up a measure on an issue that is unacceptable in the form the other house passed it in, and amending it to the form that you think is better and sending it back (or to conference to resolve the issues) is a way of moving forward that is generally more effective than sending an alternative bill to die in committee and then ignoring the issue.
To me it looks like a bad-faith effort and a waste of everyone's time.
After the successful repeal vote in the House in May 2017, the GOP threw big celebratory parties. You can see pictures of representatives smiling and laughing about the prospect of significant numbers of their own constituents losing coverage. They really relished the idea of taking away millions of people’s healthcare, and were profoundly disappointed when it didn’t work out.
As for the dozens of repeal votes while Obama was still in office: those were a quite effective partisan posturing effort. GOP-aligned media spent years on false propaganda about the effects of the ACA, trying to trick a public who largely didn’t understand the law or the healthcare system more generally. (To the point that e.g. in Kentucky people like “Kynect” while “Obamacare” is extremely unpopular, even though they are two names for the same thing.) GOP politicians were electorally very successful campaigning against the ACA while trying to sabotage it in every way they could. Much easier than even pretending to come up with a plan of their own.
Since the GOP Congress during Obama’s second term had no constructive agenda, essentially all of their time was spent on stuff like ACA repeal and Benghazi hearings. You are right that it was a bad-faith effort.
I would have said it the first time, at least.
The House didn't pass HEROES dozens of times.
Perhaps because the GOP literally called[0] for that? Just a crazy thought.
[0] https://thehill.com/homenews/news/529195-arizona-gop-asks-if...
The situation may be bad, but not as dramatic as you paint it.
And food insecurity could quickly turn into deadly famine if we ever have an interruption in the food supply, especially with our "just in time" supply chain mentality.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/28/coronavirus-food-banks-are-c...
I didn't grow up poor, but did have some time in my life when I was destitute, homeless and without prospects.
I'll tell you a few things about that:
1. It's hard to hold a job when you have no place to shower or keep your belongings;
2. Homeless shelters are frightening, dangerous places and many (myself included) preferred to sleep rough than risk their lives in one of those places;
3. Food banks/Soup kitchens, etc. are few and far between. I shoplifted and ate out of garbage cans when I had to do so;
4. If you have no fixed address or documentation, it's hard to get stuff like food stamps or other assistance.
It's been 35 years since I was in that situation, but it's an experience I will never forget. No one should be put in that situation. Ever.
You have no idea what it is to be penniless and homeless. And for your sake, I hope you never have to learn the hard way.
Unfortunately, because of the callous, calculating disregard of the US Senate, many folks in the US have and many more will learn the lessons I did.
More's the pity.