"The far-left managed to create an "amazing" (and terrifying) perspective.
If you're a leftist but not as leftist as them, you're a centrist, maybe even center-right which makes everybody on the right to be automatically far-right."
I suspect you haven't elaborated on it because you recognize that your application of the term is easily disputed.
Far-left is the complete abolition of private property, abolition of police and prisons, in some cases the abolition of monies period.
There are literally zero far-left people in elected or appointed positions within the US government today.
Your worldview is much smaller than reality and the dog-whistles you lean on are obvious. Educate yourself before choosing to expound your limited views.
Oh, come on. You can't really be that condescending and expect people to take you seriously.
Anyway, according to your broad worldview, communists are not far-left. Ok.
So you're wrong again.
Folks seem to be taking me seriously. I don't know if you can say the same.
Attacks on rhetoric and not substance only serve to expose your lack of a basis on which to make your claims.
To reciprocate your condescending comments I could say you should read a little bit before making a fool of yourself.
I'm not wasting my time anymore with you.
Your house and toothbrush and such is personal property.
Some call that... being a snowflake :)
Socialists want to end the private ownership of means of production. Communists go further.
Your attempts to silence me are petty.
such a low level of discourse. I thought these kind of comments weren't allowed on HN?
When center leftists started to embrace free trade and things like that.
So basically anybody not on the left fringe was label a neoliberalist, all the way from Clinton to Milton Friedman.
You can make it really easy if you just throw everybody in the same bucket and label it evil. Its a classic move in politics.
It does have a meaning.
> Neoliberalism is contemporarily used to refer to market-oriented reform policies such as "eliminating price controls, deregulating capital markets, lowering trade barriers" and reducing, especially through privatization and austerity, state influence in the economy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
So disheartening to see this low quality of discourse on HN.
It's a magical place where only those who agree with the person speaking are allowed to have an opinion and shouldn't be censored by big tech co.
Since then the Democratic Party has continued tracking to the right, with Newt Gingrich and the Heritage Foundation's 1994/94 HEART Act being slightly edited and passed as Obamacare.
This isn't a "terrifying perspective", but literally public statements and accepted political science.
They gained power before that (their main original organization, the DLC, was a powerful force in Democratic politics well before its former head became the Democratic nominee in 1992), but they were definitely the unquestionably dominant faction from that point forward, though that has gotten weaker over the past decade or so.
You can be right of the Democratic Party and be anywhere from merely slightly-less-center center-right to, well, anywhere to the right of that.
But the US polítical spectrum is basically bimodal, and the peak to the right of the dominant faction of the Democratic Party is far-right.
Do you see anything that looks like "socialism" coming from the democratic party in the united states?
Ocasio-Cortez is one congress woman who has been in office for less than two years. She is not in a position of power within the democratic party, in fact they actively oppose her.
So what is your point? AOC does not reflect where the democrats are as a party, and it's dishonest to pretend so.
And student loan relief is not socialism. Free college could arguably be, but what is being discussed is far from free college.
Your logic is astounding.
That's all socialism.