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Except IBM thinks that this will convert everyone to RHEL licenses and I'm positive that is not what's going to happen.

Ubuntu is already the default for people with ML pipelines and more and more vendors are targeting Ubuntu first for their software.

CentOS will be effectively dead for a lot of companies starting next year (or 2024). (At least we aren't planning on licensing 10^5 systems on RHEL...). I imagine for those same companies, RHEL isn't far behind it.

What's even worse here is that at least for us there are some things that we pay for RHEL for. If we switch all of our other servers, those RHEL licenses won't be continuing either.

Obvious, but stupid.

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This. We run CentOS for non-critical stuff and RHEL for stuff that really needs support. If we need to switch off CentOS we certainly won't be using RHEL either. Doesn't make sense to be running a Debian flavour mixed with RHEL since the two a significantly different.

Yes clearly: we use CentOS at work because it's free (as in beer). If I go to my boss to ask money for a RedHat license he would laugh me out of his office.

Just wait when Mark Shuttleworth decides not to sponsor the project any longer.

Ubuntu followed Red-Hat's footsteps away from desktop into the server room, as there is no money to be done there, and it will follow it still, if there is still not enough money on the server.

Why wouldn't they switch to Debian instead? Their emphasis on stability matches that of CentOS more than Ubuntu, or at least did.

Because some important vendors don't target Debian whereas they do target Ubuntu.

Canonical and RedHat are paying the salaries of the people steering the direction of Linux as a whole. They're forcing you to choose between the two.

Your forgetting Suse, I'll bet they take a big chunk of the customer base. OpenSuse LEAP is now identical to SLES and it can be converted easily if you want support.

But LEAP is only supported for 36 months? https://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime

That's pretty weak sauce even compared to the five years Debian and Ubuntu offer. And Debian actually supports all their packages, unlike Ubuntu which tricks people into installing unpatched garbage from 'universe'

Supported for "at least" 36 months. You can get extended support and it's usually quiet a bit more.

Do you know what kind of price range would that be?

You'd have to convert to SLES and buy extended support.

Ubuntu has more predictable long term support.

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