> "china bans all us social media apps"

Microsoft Teams, Skype, FaceTime all work in China, to name a few.

> because they want to control the content that Chinese citizens see and remove anything that is negative towards the ccp, etc.

This is true. But that doesn't mean they ban all US social media apps. If you follow their Internet laws (like Microsoft and Apple do) then you are allowed to operate.

> US tries to ban 1 app that is being used to spread propaganda, farm user data, and is considered a national security threat.

This is an assumption. Proof please, because I haven't seen any.

Don't get me wrong. I am not against a ban on Tiktok. I'm against a discriminatory ban, based on unproven assumptions, solely targeting the origin of an app.

What would be much more fair would be to state: all foreign apps have to go through a security audit to certify that no data reaches any foreign governments. That way you don't have to prove wrongdoing first, and you aren't being discriminatory either.

Would you want the US government to ban Twitter or Facebook for spreading propaganda and/or farm user data?

In fact, would you want the US to be more like China?

North Korea executes tens of thousands of dissidents every year. The Bush administration tries to hold one person without habeas corpus, and all of a sudden the Supreme Court's up his ass. What's the deal with that!

The reason is cultural asymmetry. The US culture is more attractive than the Chinese one to most of the world.

America has the image built. China doesn't. It's behind. China will open when their culture is at a similar standing to the US.

Of course the image built is breaking down now, but it's still ahead of the Chinese one.

> US tries to ban 1 app that is being used to spread propaganda, farm user data, and is considered a national security threat. And everyone loses their shit over it.

Everyone loses their shit over it because it's a direct example of the US government potentially violating the first amendment. They may claim that the app is being used to spread propaganda, farm user data, and is a "national security threat", but they've done very little other than raise the specter of "China" to prove that. Their claims of justification have been met with significant push back and, as far as I'm aware, they haven't provided any meaningful proof of their claims.

So yes, it's well-worth it for people to get up in arms about the US government censoring and shutting down access of US customers to a phone app. That's a hugely dangerous precedent to set and one that shouldn't be done lightly.

We're supposed to lose our shit over it. That's our thing.

If a bad government does a bad thing a lot, it doesn't justify our government doing that bad thing even once.

In the long run, the asymmetry of US and Chinese citizen's access to each other's culture and products will work in our favor. Liberalism always seems to win, eventually.

It sucks for Chinese people that china is banning apps. However, I really see no connection between china doing bad things and me being ok with the US doing those same bad things. What is that argument? Like, china executes drug offenders. So, if the US proposed to do the same, but only two or three of them, am I meant to be ok with it because China does it more?

>US tries to ban 1 app that is being used to spread propaganda

Have you ever actually used tiktok? How is it being used to spread propoganda?

>farm user data

LOL. Yeah, please tell me how they are doing anything different than the other billion apps you download on your phone and sign-in through google or whatever.

>and is considered a national security threat

Because of... why?

The media doesn't care right now because it's only Trump's orders getting baselessly delayed. After four years of Biden getting every single one of his executive orders blocked because the Republicans challenged it in the friendliest lower court they could find, I imagine there will finally be some bipartisan support for fixing this problem.