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Actually I'm surprised nobody's asking about a wired headphone jack. Without one, you won't be able to watch movies on planes, which is a pretty significant use case for over-the-ear noise-cancelling headphones. Probably gaming as well -- I don't do a ton of gaming, but StarCraft basically doesn't work over Bluetooth (probably due to buffering requirements).

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They quietly released a wired lightning to wired headphone jack cable today to go with these, for use on planes, etc.

At least in the US domestic market, it seems like every airline just does in-flight streaming to your own phone or tablet now anyways :p

Well if you are the type of guy to buy this headphone, you'd probably also own a macbook to watch movies on.

There's a $35 lightning to 3.5mm you can buy as an addon

Bluetooth is enabled while in Airplane mode, so I don't get your point frankly.

Gaming latency is true though - when I use Bluetooth headphones on my TV, Game Mode gets automatically disabled.

I was talking about watching movies on the seat-back in-flight entertainment system. I don't those will connect to bluetooth headphones yet -- at least not on the class of seat that I buy. :-)

Apple rolled out a low-latency audio feature a few weeks ago -- if you have a HomePod/pair of HomePods set as your primary output on your ATV4K, they're able to stay in sync with the TV even when you're doing something where any audio latency would be noticeable. For example, if I'm streaming a game from my PC, video and audio are in lockstep (which you wouldn't expect to see normally, since the audio would get 1-2s of buffer from the video) and there's no noticeable input latency (which you'd see if the device was holding back the video to build an audio buffer).

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