Comment by mannicken | Hacker News Reader

Comment by mannicken | Hacker News Reader

"Yes, it is about attracting those women whose hair is the color of the midday sun and eyes are the color of the ocean, and it is about having sex with them. "

No-no-no. That's the wrong attitude.

I think the key is this -- women are animals, just like men, with slightly different genitals. And they should be treated like men, not put on a higher pedestal.

I'm sorry, girls, but if you think that just because you have a vagina you're somehow better than the rest of the world -- you are wrong. The worst possible legal thing you can do to a man is not have sex with him. And if you think having sex with you is the best and indescribable pleasure one can have -- you are wrong. Sex is not as fun as it sounds, it's a physical workout, it gets tiring, there's sweat and weird noises and everything. It's overrated. Get over it, not everyone is dreaming of you everyday of their life and you are not the fantastically beautiful cute cuddly thing you'd like to think you are.

You wanted equal rights, have fun.

Now, this is a question you want to ask yourself "Would I treat her differently if she had a penis?" If you say yes, you are biased and you need deep introspection into yourself and your life-values.

I'm tired of all this miserable bullshit where people take things like color of the skin, or genitalia, or height, or whatever into account to justify their own laziness, incompetence, mental illnesses and whatever personal problems they have.

It's more than just the plumbing. Emotionally/hormonally women are different. Everyone should be treated _fairly_ but not interchangeably.

After a deep (albeit brief) introspection, I am quite happy to pull out chairs, open doors, offer an arm on the stairs, and date women.

[note the submitted link seems to be down I have yet to read the article]

It's slightly different. Opening doors is a sign of politeness. Politeness has nothing to do with putting people on a pedestal.

Politeness can be done in a way that indicates disgust, similarly to passive aggression.

Meh, after reading the article this seems OT.

How is that the wrong attitude?

I think you should read the original article that quote is from (http://nymag.com/news/features/asian-americans-2011-5/) because the remainder of your comment makes it clear you didn't understand what you've quoted. It certainly has nothing to do with putting women on a pedestal, in fact, it's quite the opposite.

It's a wrong attitude because it implies that having sex with a white woman is somehow an achievement in life worth respect from others. I disagree.

It implies that having the skills to pick up any woman you want (in his specific case, he wants blonde haired white women) is an achievement in life worth respect. You may disagree with that, but I can assure you those skills translate to all aspects of social interaction. In the context of the original article, this is one of the ways that people can radically improve their social skills and positively impact all areas of their life.

Not necessarily and depends on many variables. Counter-example: I would respect a guy who slept with few girls and has a stable relationship much more than someone who goes to a bar every night, takes advantage of half-conscious, drunk women and somehow boasts that as an achievement.. I think that's what most "pick-up artists" try to do.

You missed the central point of the statement:

This is what he prefers, what he stands for, and what he is selling: the courage to pursue anyone you want, and the skills to make the person you desire desire you back.

It's not wrong at all to put what you want on a pedestal. It seems pretty obvious to me that when you desire something it's because you value it.

I think his outlook on achieving his goal interferes with every reasonable pick-up theory in the world, is offensive to women of other color, and is borderline fascist.

I also think he is using his race as an excuse for his problems.

Not wrong, just backwards and ineffective. It's often when you stop caring that the object of your desire arrives at your door.

or genitalia

Sounds a tad defensive, only proving the point of the New York Magazine article.

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