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Side question -- why is s3fs so slow? I get only about 1 put per 10 seconds with s3fs. One would hope that you could use something like s3fs as a makeshift S3 API, but its performance is really horrible.

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I can't answer this directly, but I thought I'd chime in with a possible alternative, or at least something else to test.

I'm using rclone with S3[1] (and others). There are commands[2] where you can use to just sync/copy/ files but it also has a mount option[3]. It also has caching[4] and other things that might help.

[1] https://rclone.org/s3/

[2] https://rclone.org/commands/

[3] https://rclone.org/commands/rclone_mount/

[4] https://rclone.org/cache/

This is not expected behavior. An older version had pessimized locking which preventing concurrently adding a file to a directory and listing the directory simultaneously which is the most similar symptom. I recommend upgrading to the latest version, running with debug flags `-f -d -o curldbg`, and observing what's happening. Please open an issue at https://github.com/s3fs-fuse/s3fs-fuse/issues if your symptoms persist.

One thing I noticed when I went digging through the s3fs source trying to answer that myself is that it's uploader is single threaded. Part of what makes AWS's cli reasonably fast is that it uses several threads to make sure to use as much bandwidth as possible. If I limit AWS's tool to one thread on a box with plenty of bandwidth, it turns my upload down from around 135 MiB/s to around 20 MiB/s

Not sure if that's all of it, or even the majority of the slowness.

Could you expand on this comment? s3fs uses multiple threads for uploading and populating readdir metadata via S3fsMultiCurl::MultiPerform. Earlier versions used curl_multi_perform which may have hidden some of the parallelism from you.

Huh, right you are. I did a cursory search, but whatever I saw clearly was wrong.

That said, something is going on that I can't explain:

    # Default settings for aws
    $ time aws s3 cp /dev/shm/1GB.bin s3://test-kihaqtowex/a
    upload: ../../dev/shm/1GB.bin to s3://test-kihaqtowex/a

    real    0m10.312s
    user    0m5.909s
    sys     0m4.204s

    $ aws configure set default.s3.max_concurrent_requests 4
    $ time aws s3 cp /dev/shm/1GB.bin s3://test-kihaqtowex/b
    upload: ../../dev/shm/1GB.bin to s3://test-kihaqtowex/b

    real    0m26.732s
    user    0m4.989s
    sys     0m2.741s

    $ time cp /dev/shm/1GB.bin s3fs_mount_-kihaqtowex/c

    real    0m26.368s
    user    0m0.006s
    sys     0m0.699s

(I did multiple runs, though not hundreds so I can't say with certainty this would hold)

I swear the difference was worse in the past, so maybe things have improved. Still not worth the added slowness to me for my use cases.

Thanks for testing! You may improve performance via increasing -o parallel_count (default="5"). Newer versions of s3fs have improved performance but please report any cliffs at https://github.com/s3fs-fuse/s3fs-fuse/issues .

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