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I agree with the gist of hiring people that care about their craft, but asking them to care about the company is harder.

That really requires some sort of reciprocal "company cares about you", and that's hard to guarantee. Especially when you're hiring the generation that saw their parents lose out on the things like pensions vs 401k, layoffs as regular events, etc.

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Too many times you give your all and when there is a bump you get flushed down the toilet, it’s not trust inspiring. Luckily I did found companies who cared, but it’s a minority. The best advice I can give is : make your company human. Give and take, be there for eachother, care. Sounds simple, but in my experience not many companies tick these boxes.

Agreed. Even if the company seems to care, they are one leadership change, product pivot, industry downturn, etc...away from that changing.

And companies who dare asking your consent to collect, retain, and share (with 3rd parties they like) everything about you from your teams chat to gene data.

I wish this passionate-about-the-company, corporate BS that is under the guise of new age feel good advice, fad goes away. The number of founders I have met who show the attitude that they are trying to change the world and I should be grateful to have a chance to work for them is astonishing. There is nothing wrong with having a business that doesn't change people's lives in a fundamental way. But don't sell me BS that your another social media app is going to change the world in a good way, while you, being a founder, take all the winnings and I, being an ordinary employee, have to overwork without proper compensation and feel good about it.

> I agree with the gist of hiring people that care about their craft, but asking them to care about the company is harder.

Exactly! Pride in one’s work is what you want. Hiring people who care about your company when, for most people, it’s another notch in their belt, means that your hiring pool is severely constrained and you’ll pass over many people who take pride in their work (and who would therefore benefit your company tremendously).

Stop pretending your company is anything more than a capitalist endeavor that pays people for their time.

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