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I'm not American, and I agree there is a lot of information there, but it seems reasonably sane if you read through it.

I don't see any obvious contradictions. You can't park 11-1 tuesday due to street cleaning. You can't stop there mon-fri 7:30-16:00 with the exception of 7:30-8 for school business (dropping the kids off). You can park mon-fri between 4 and 6, once per day, per district (to pick up your kids after school), district permits (people who live there, not sure what the 4 means) are exempt.

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Even so, it's easy to make a mistake with that much information so poorly organized. There are better alternatives out there, like this:

https://www.lamag.com/driver/hidden-costs-parking-signs-easy...

Would be even better with 24-hour clock.

Us 24 hour clock fanbois are outcasts - just like us 28 day month people

Oh I absolutely agree. I'm not defending it, just pointing out that it's not totally insane. Here in the UK I've never seen anything that nuts however.

it seems reasonably sane if you read through it.

It doesn't matter if it seems sane that way. How many seconds does a driver have to read through that all when he's driving near the speed limit? Do we expect drivers to still keep an eye on the road while trying to decipher it? Do we expect every driver to slam on the brakes, and stand still until they've parsed it all?

I think the idea is you stop, read the sign (probably need to get out of the car), then either stay or go after parsing. Or if you're a regular you learn the rules that apply to you.

But it includes "No Stopping" and you need to read the fine print to find out when :)

I assume the 4 means parking district four. They give people some limited room to hunt for street parking near their home by breaking the city into small districts.

https://www.culvercity.org/Home/ShowDocument?id=1928

I am American, and it confuses me, which perhaps proves the point.

In particular, why is it necessary to point out that parking is prohibited from 11 to 1 on Tuesday, when stopping of any kind is already prohibited on a superset of that time (7:30-4 M-F)?

It's not M-F, it's school days, i.e. not in school holidays?

I read “tow-away school days” and “No stopping M-F” as separate regulations, because they are divided by a horizontal line.

I don’t drive anymore (and when I did, it was mainly in suburbs) so perhaps I’m just not familiar with conventions?

Look at the bottom bolt on the "No Parking" sign: It's partially covered by the later-added "No Stopping" sign.

Also, because this is apparently in a school zone, you have to think about how stopping is different from parking: You don't have to pull into a parking zone to drop off your kid, you can just stop momentarily in the middle of the street. During the non-overlap hours, you can pull over and park, just not stop in the street.

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