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"Device Warranty: 30 Days" => Totally illegal in my country

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Across the whole of the EU this isn't legal (the legal minimum warranty period is 2 years[1]).

Legal aspects aside, it also isn't exactly a vote of confidence in the quality of the product. I mean, 30 days, really?

1: https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/dealing-with-customers...

It may be illegal to sell locally but completely legal to import for personal use (e.g. because Pine64 isn't conducting business in your country at all, they have no obligation to comply with local regulations, only you, the importer of record, have those obligations and you probably aren't required to provide yourself with a warranty).

(and in all of Europe I believe)

I think it may be legal, since saying it qualifies as a disclaimer. Basically the default is 24m (EU) or 12m (US), but it should be legal to explicitly state another term for warranty.

Some shops have down to 1 week of warranty, some (e.g. wholesale items) may state to accept no returns, etc.

> I think it may be legal, since saying it qualifies as a disclaimer. Basically the default is 24m (EU) or 12m (US), but it should be legal to explicitly state another term for warranty.

No. While in the US people seem to be able to get away with anything as long as there is a disclaimer, EU law is strict - it's minimum 24 months per Art. 17 EU directive 1999/44/EC (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...), with an exception for second-hand goods (Art. 16 of said directive, with the decision on the exact duration being left to the member states).

B2B transactions, however, are pretty much unregulated wild west.

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