Cordless Project Closes Down
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Slack is particularly bad with making anything longer than 10k messages inaccessible. The amount of internet history being lost in these groups is boggling.
I assumed all these SaaSS products are built like carnivorous plants - The spikes only point in.
I tried the data export from Asana once and it was useless.
https://docs.mattermost.com/administration/migrating.html?hi...
> I tried the data export from Asana once and it was useless.
I don't think you can infer that all SAAS platforms lock your data because you had a failed attempt with another such tool once.
[0] https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/help/articles/201658943-Export-...
DuckDuckGo'd a few ones. But not convincing ones.
The UI is not the most modern but the software is productive and friendly for a chat application, particularly when you look for an old information burried in the history.
This earned yet another twitter DM to them telling them they fucked up. They benefit directly from the open source community so this is a huge "fuck you" to everyone involved.
Slimey, shitty tactics. I was previously going to run a company through them but now I'm going to evaluate other options.
There is also a setting for discord "scanning" your messages for bad content, maybe that's something you're looking for.
Which I used quite a bit when that kind of thing was more useful
Does anyone know the specific rule, in the ToS, that Cordless breaks?
You may not use self-bots or user-bots to access Discord.
Adherence to the "guidelines" is accepted as part of the ToS, "you agree to comply with the restrictions and rules of use set forth in these Terms and our Community Guideline"
Seems odd to have an API for bots but ban 3rd party clients!
No? The part of the ToS was never mentioned.
The rest of the first paragraph also make it pretty clear he was banned because of cordless.
If you're still not convinced, the author added later in the readme:
> WARNING: Third party clients are discouraged and against the Discord TOS. There have already been cordless users that got banned, including me (Bios-Marcel, the maker and maintainer)
They aren't against the TOS per se, just that they can kick you out at any time for any reason. They could kick you out for typing too slowly in the official client if they wanted to.
> You agree not to [...] copy, adapt, modify, prepare derivative works based upon, distribute, license, sell, transfer, publicly display, publicly perform, transmit, stream, broadcast, attempt to discover any source code, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, or otherwise exploit the Service or any portion of the Service, except as expressly permitted in these Terms
Combined with
> All rights, title and interest in and to all materials that are part of the Service (including, but not limited to, designs, text, graphics, pictures, video, information, applications, software, music, sound and other files, and their selection and arrangement), except for Your Content, collectively referred to as the "Service Materials,” are, as between the Company and you, owned by the Company and/or its third party licensors.
And
> You agree that you shall not modify, copy, distribute, frame, reproduce, republish, download, scrape, display, post, transmit, or sell in any form or by any means, in whole or in part, or otherwise exploit the Service Materials without our express prior written permission. You acknowledge that you do not acquire any ownership rights by using the Service or by accessing any Service Materials posted on the Service [...]
Seem to ban client modifications, reverse engineering of the client, etc.
Then, the ToS make you agree to the Community Guidelines, in which you can find
> You may not use self-bots or user-bots to access Discord.
Which, from my understanding, is the main way third-party clients work. (Except for those simply embedding the discordapp website)
I might be wrong, but that's what I gathered from my small investigation
I am looking for: - Voice/video chat with PTT integrated - An okayish chat with search feature
I would like to be a part (developer) of such project.
Spartial channel structure (like in spartial.chat) is a welcome thing — I would like to make some sort of distributed hackspace with that.
Typical company using open source but also giving the middle finger to open sourcers.
Each time this happens, Stallman seems a little bit more sane.
He always seemed sane to me. If anything, it's the people who knowingly use non-free software (or develop against non-free APIs) who seem a bit insane.
Or the Api is also copyright?
With OSS contributors getting burned out by maintaining stuff they don't get paid for, you propose that "we" build and support something from which people participating in network will get benefits from. Then maintainers have to deal with all the requests and other stuff, it is not just writing code, you also have to run some servers and it is costing money as well.