The real competition is no longer Intel. Its AMD. Or if you're just buying Apple because you like them then there is no competition, you buy what they offer.
I like fanless systems so I'll be watching Apple closely.
I like fanless systems so I'll be watching Apple closely.
Intel just does this. Every now and then, they get so far ahead that the rest of the market just totally disintegrates, which allows them to screw around and juice up their margins while failing to actually innovate. Their brand is so strong it takes years for it to erode, even when they do suck, and when they have actual competition they've got plenty of cushion to keep selling old designs while they catch up.
Past performance does not guarantee future results.
Keep in mind you're trying to pin magical properties on a brand, and meanwhile people and technologies come and go.
Sure, things change! But Intel is huge, and it's got a track record of repeatedly weathering setbacks and missteps only to come back with market dominance.
Maybe it's really going to be all about Apple and AMD while Intel plays catch-up for generations to come - I just feel like it's a bit premature to come to that conclusion.
I wouldn't call it a KO until Intel 7nm chips come out. At that time, we'll see if this is a comeback story or just another IBM.
I didn't say anything like that. Simply that if you want to compare performance to the best that is currently not Intel.
There is a lot of hype around this new apple chip and people claiming it's a performance king, but I seriously doubt that.
Even for mobile I'd like to see it compared to AMD APUs.
Sure, they sit on enough money that they can recover if they do it right. But there currently aren't any signals that they're getting things right.
If Boeing had delayed the rollout of the MAX 8, or even simply reduced the production rate, it may have been able to identify and rectify the MCAS failure mode, thus preventing suspension of the MAX aircraft. In retrospect, they could have delivered more aircraft prior to the pandemic and avoided many of the order cancellations that it brought.
Sometimes, it's better to go slowly and get things right than to forge ahead at full steam. We won't know if these 7nm delays are good or bad for Intel, until 7nm actually rolls out.
This feels more like Microsoft getting blindsided by Google, Apple and Amazon amongst others. Intel isn't going anywhere any time soon, but their reign as king of the mountain may very well be over.
With enough cooling, you can operate a CPU at full tilt and never engage the throttle.
Although if you're saying the M1's performance "sucks", I can't wait to see the next iteration.
Sure, the critical path setup and hold time limit clock speeds, but that's not the reason for throttling a chip that can turbo at a higher clock. Even if it were, certain operations with a shorter critical path could run at faster clock even when hot.
If thermals weren't the dominant factor, you wouldn't need better cooling to overclock.
My perspective (correct me if wrong):
Hot semiconductors can damage themselves, and this becomes more important as the lithography shrinks. Binning is designed to identify which silicon can be pushed harder and which is not quite up to the task.
I agree with the other guy that if your CPU always runs at its steady-state temperature that means it is leaving performance on the table.
For developers, for instance, I really doubt you're going to commonly have 30 minutes of full load in your normal workflow.