> Patience, I think. We are so used to things we can hack together in a week, nobody is thinking in terms of years. And good UI requires years of work. It’s a big commitment.

Lol what? After years, Apple is already on to the next user interface. All the "good UI" happens in Figma, you're just programming it, hopefully fast & without bugs, what is taking so long? And as a fellow programmer, no thanks, I would not like to spend years developing a UI that could be done in weeks.

We had an engineer that said it was going to take 3 months to add a sticky header to the site, because he needed to do it "right", using his home grown state machine library on Github with 3 stars. He was shortly let go.