Obama: The internet is “the single biggest threat to our democracy”
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It still puts a sinking feeling in my stomach. In-fact, maybe even moreso. I can't believe how much and how fast things have changed in 12 years.
Goldberg: Is this new malevolent information architecture bending the moral arc away from justice?
Obama: I think it is the single biggest threat to our democracy.
This is the quote. He is talking about disinformation. He didn't say it in the context of "the Internet".
Kind of ironic in the end.
Reddit prioritizes using user votes, which tends to result in less divisive content. But the way the community is broken down into subreddits can result in clear echo chambers at times as people reinforce each other's behaviors.
Slight nitpick, but the top metric is money. If Engagement didn't lead to the most dollars it would not be prioritized. I think this is important to separate because "Engagement → (Ad Impressions + Societal Collapse)" feels so much more fixable to me than just "Engagement → Societal Collapse".
If they down-weighted negative engagement they could easily solve this though. There are pretty trivial content analysis tools that spit out a hostility score for a corpus of text.
Facebook just doesn't care to do this.
The internet, if anything has promoted democratic practice around the world, which is why China wants to shut it out. It has done more for knowledge sharing than any medium in history.
Unfortunately, advertising is one of the the only model big enough to sustain the purchase of massive amounts of hardware which grow the internet, that and movie subscriptions.
But it will die as a model in the next decade I’m sure. When the AI overlords take over, there will be no need for money.
It's true that it was done on a bunch of ad-supported platforms with elaborate "engagement" metrics who want to keep eyeballs. So I guess in a sideways sense you can argue that "advertising" created viral content. But then "advertising" created the good content too. It's just specious.
No, there's something about the way that completely unmoderated discourse on the internet has evolved that is new and dangerous in ways that we hadn't expected. You aren't going to fix this by forcing people off the ads.
People are entitled opinions, but policy must be governed by facts and science too.
Oh, wait, Obama said "democracy", not "powers that be". Well... I will admit that I am concerned that on the internet, the feedback loops are too tight, so that hot takes crowd out reasonable thought. That's a formula for gut reactions, which isn't great for democracy. But the parent has a point, too, that this is said about every medium at some point.
I fear that Obama is right. I also fear that this is the usual "threatening the powers that be/the existing order" complaint, and that any proposed solution will be worse than the problem. Not sure where that leaves me...
Let the people become the judge of truth, but in a more transparent way.
If i comment on an article in a socialist way, you'd mark me leftist. So my comments then are highlighted in shades of blue depending on how far left my ranking is by other community members. Likewise for Trump supporters.
Articles could also be ranked / flagged as dangerous (inciting hate, violence, etc) and be removed or at least boldened, or as hackernews does greyed out, so it's less prominent without complete dismissal, yet let the person not see the greying or know they've been greyed. Something along those lines, I'm sure other tweaks could be made to make a platform like twitter that's more democratically policed - that keeps as much content as possible, but is very transparent on where that content lie in truth / political slant.
"Well, we have about a zillion think tanks researching new and better forms of propaganda. And we have constitutionally protected freedom of speech. And we have the Internet. So we’re kind of screwed."
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/
That has never happened before in history.
I believe that you don't have to bomb a country to free its people. Simply show them that there is a better way and the people will eventually demand change.
This is what the internet is doing. It's showing people women who vote, gays who celebrate their freedom, free health care and education for all, safety, security. Fundamentally that is what all humans want.
But I guess it also becomes harder to oppress one remote culture, and use them for cheap labor, if they can see where their labor is going and what it's worth through their cellphone.