all of the replies to this comment misunderstand the point. if you get hit by a bus and have covid, you are still counted as a "covid death" in the statistics, at least in my province, because there isnt a simple means to separate the two
They ignore the overwhelming "excess deaths" number and pretend that unless a person had COVID and COVID alone listed, with no co-morbidity, it doesn't count, and therefore 99+% of COVID deaths aren't COVID at all.
This is, of course, not true, as the excess deaths numbers clearly demonstrate. If anything, we're under-counting COVID.
This is comically illustrated by the examples being used... Hit by a bus? Hospice patients with weeks to live?
The truth is that the typical comorbidities, that have a noticeable effect on the actual total number of deaths, are things like obesity, hyptertension, and diabetes... Things that literally will not kill an otherwise healthy adult in the same time period as COVID-19.
Are they even testing dead people for covid?
Or, are you saying someone was hit by a bus, gets/has covid and ultimately dies? If that's the case, I would assume the doctors know what they are doing and would list the ultimate cause of death properly, which covid may have aggravated. What if they would have survived their bus injuries if it was not for covid?
Regardless, this hair splitting doesn't matter because it's a very small portion of all cases that end up in an odd case like the above.
Mortality increase (compared to the average of last n years) seems like the only good measure of Covid impact.
Because this is the first time that these sorts of stats have been used to curtail everyone's freedom so much.
We know this because we have seen how things have unfolded in places like Northern Italy and Iran - the hospital system is quickly overwhelmed, and then people start dying by the dozens in each hospital, because they simply can't get any kind of care anymore.
Another possible interpretation of this is that lockdowns don't really help much.
> We know this because we have seen how things have unfolded in places like Northern Italy and Iran
I thought those places did have lockdowns.
Famously, the Iranian health minister was on TV announcing that the country doesn't need to take special Covid19 measure while visibly sweating because of the fever caused by his Covid19 infection.
If you want positive proof that lockdowns work, the absolute best example is Vietnam: a tiny country of 100 million people which has experienced 1123 total infections so far, with 37 deaths.