Dominion Voting Systems Patents
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Does the Dominion Voting System provide a vote tally that is independently verifiable?
But who knows I once thought the same of ATMs and electronic gas pumps.
From a company whose name sure sounds a lot like "theocratic christiandom overrule".
https://dcdirtylaundry.com/bombshell-the-2020-election-took-...
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9754011363
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-election-syctl-...
"DC Dirty Laundry" is, in general, not a reliable source for news.
https://www.newsguardtech.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/DCD...
Let's see some actual proof. So far nobody with any credibility, including the company that was ostensibly raided, claims a raid happened.
Your relationship to facts is increasingly strained.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/13278115271231037...
And the UCMJ is irrelevant to the outcome of the election. With the sole exception of the process of collection of military overseas ballots, the election is an entirely civilian and mostly state-level process that has no involvement from the military.
"Your relationship to facts is increasingly strained."
(... it's pretty clear, however, that most of the time Trump is in charge of Trump's Twitter account)
Then when we evaluate her claims, we still find them to be utterly baseless accusations, detached from demonstrable fact.
The court cases are being thrown out consistently, and the hearings in front of state legislatures have been downright embarrassing.
Better decide where you want to live for the next 25 years.
Some fun tips from this video:
* He completely misunderstands the information that came from the "Pennsylvania legislature." It came from the Republican caucus. And specifically, it was spearheaded by a member of the caucus that essentially has no political cachet in the state. He can do what he wants, it's a free country, but everyone knows he's a nutter and his belief in a conspiracy theory is about a surprising as somebody reporting the sky is blue on a clear day. He also completely misunderstands what's going to happen in Pennsylvania, because that Republican caucus doesn't have the political power to block either certification or the slate of electors in the electoral college. And it's all irrelevant because deadlock in the electoral college would result in a president Pelosi, as per the House nuclear option mentioned in the last video I cited.
* The "pigtail lady" is the scandal du jour. It hasn't been presented in a court of law, and the simplest explanation for what the video shows is that nobody attempted to hide it (she didn't change her hair or top) because it was business as usual. I've worked elections, and I haven't seen anything in that video that looked out of sorts. When conspiracy theorists go looking for irregularities, they always find them. But that's more a psychological function of people finding what they're looking for than any particular changes in reality.
* The law is a little unclear, but what Michael Flynn has done is probably actually sedition. It also ought not to be illegal. I don't think it's illegal. But Flynn is by no means the good guy in this story; he is openly calling for an illegal overthrow of the Constitutionally-mandated electoral process via the military. Right or wrong, that's fundamentally the end of American democracy were it to occur. If he wants to put himself on the side with people who have tried to overthrow America with military might, from Aaron Burr through Robert E. Lee onwards, that's his choice, and if he ever makes good on his threats, the US military is more than willing to remind him what happens to traitors.
Anyway, this whole video is classic conspiracy theory claptrap, from the need to imagine a conspiracy so vast that it encompasses all possible counterindications to the need to invent an enemy the conspiracy is happening on behalf of (looks like he's dragged the old communist fear out of the woodwork and repurposed it for China; that's a fun one that Americans are fond of). Nothing in here is convincing unless you already believe the conspiracy theory, and then it's just reinforcing delusion.
I plan to live in the US for the next 25 years, for what it's worth. ;)
Trump's path to victory is described by Praying Medic:
https://prayingmedic.com/2020/11/27/the-crisis-is-over-im-re...
You once wrote:
States can't change their rules for certification of electors without a governor's signature. If a state tried to pull some nonsense like changing the selection of electors away from the process as encoded in law before Nov. 3, that'd be new law and (a) would require a governor's signature or a veto-proof majority and (b) may actually be ex-post-facto if the current law is structured such that it declares how electors related to the votes cast on Nov. 3, so could be stopped by state courts. [1]
But Praying Medic counters your argument with a citation from the SCOTUS ruling in Bush v. Gore. Chief Justice Rehnquist summed it up: "Or put differently, when the legislature acted pursuant to the power granted to it by Article II, it stands above any limits imposed by state law."
If it goes to SCOTUS again, the five conservative justices will likely follow the Constitution.
All that has been needed to be done was that there was enough election fraud demonstrated that state legislators could feel they are not required to honor the popular vote when choosing electors, because the popular vote, as counted, is not reflective of the will of the people.
I told you 23 days ago this was Trump's strategy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25078993
Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona will all send electors for Trump, giving him more than 270.
Edit: And, you can be sure they will be arresting everyone involved in the fraud, right after they impose martial law to round them up.
Imposing martial law would simply be the death of American democracy, not some master chess move.
I don't dispute the President could try.
I doubt it would succeed (if it came down to it, plenty of generals see him as a tyrant and would follow their oath to uphold the Constitution, not a President in breach of his oath), and it renders all this discussion irrelevant because it's a suspension of Constitutional law.
But it proves nothing. We'd just be another nation where a tyrant tried military force to keep his power illegitimately. Sowing doubt in the legitimate process to justify a power grab is right out of the playbook.
It's sad that you're falling for it, but there were suckers who supported Hitler too. Every modern dictator claims they're upholding the will of the people. Every modern dictator drums up a secret conspiracy opposed to the people to justify their extraordinary measures.
Bush v Gore isn't intended to apply in the cases the Trump campaign is bringing. It will apply to cases brought against state legislatures by Democrats. However, those cases will be too late to change anything.
> Imposing martial law would simply be the death of American democracy, not some master chess move.
But, blue states and cities are already under martial law, and most Americans can see it. The Insurrection act will end up invoked, like it has been in the past.
> We'd just be another nation where a tyrant tried military force to keep his power illegitimately. Sowing doubt in the legitimate process to justify a power grab is right out of the playbook.
Yet, conservatives see it the other way, where a dictator tried fraud, sedition and treason to seize power illegitimately. Doubt in the legitimate process started the moment election observers were ordered to leave, when counting was stopped the night of Nov. 3rd.
Its only a conspiracy theory until proven. I'm not telling you what should happen, I'm telling you to prepare yourself, because this will happen.
That doesn't make it right or just, and if it happens, the people that history will recognize as the freedom fighters will be ones who take up arms against it.
I don't see it as guaranteed as you seem to, possibly because I'm not watching conspiracy theorists at the level you seem to be. In the real world, while it's illegal to say so because military law prevents denigrating the commander-in-chief, 2/3 of the military hates Trump's guts and will not follow his orders if he tells them to turn guns on citizens nationwide. And were it to happen, the military at the federal level would be fighting the various national guards, because there's no way governors of most states will cede that power.
> It's only a conspiracy theory until proven
Conspiracy theories are never proven, that's what makes them conspiracy theories. They make wrong predictions and then move the goal posts when those predictions don't come to fruition. in this case, it's the same conspiracy that believed there was a pedophilia ring operating out of the basement of a pizza parlor with no basement.
I'll be interested, academically, to see how QAnon moves the goal posts yet again when the Supreme Court refrains from hearing the petitions to throw out Pennsylvania votes.
Not a conspiracy theory.
The story appears to degrade the stolen election conspiracy theory, not reinforce it.
https://www.brighteon.com/6bbae6f0-b443-4985-9f2c-889c8c6d4a...
About 40 minutes in is where the juicy stuff starts, although you might find the rest interesting.
I really like you, and the discussions we have. I want you to understand the magnitude of what is going to happen.
I've given you everything you need to understand. You'll know I was right when you wake up one morning and see the news anchors on CNN wearing battle dress uniforms.
Another is that the Pyongyang Times is state-owned. Military.com is owned by Monster, the job placement company. They have no incentive to lie about something like this and every reason to drop a scoop if there's a scoop to drop. But there isn't a scoop to drop, because this is a simple issue of fact.
You have given me everything I need to understand. I've spent time hanging out with flat-Earthers and I recognize the telltales of a conspiracy theory---disjoint from commonly-accepted facts and a widening gyre of organizations that have to be "in" on the conspiracy to maintain it. So far, this one encompasses every mainstream media outlet (since they are consistent on a raid in Germany never having happened), a Presidency that has lost dozens of court cases yet is secretly super-genius, multiple layers of the intelligence community, and an army division that by all accounts is a training division but, says the conspiracy, is in reality a super secret special ops division.
Hm... that rings a bell. I remember when people in Texas got upset about the Jade Helm training exercise, believing it to be a front for something sinister, like rounding up all the presidents enemies and putting them into detention centers (https://www.texastribune.org/2018/05/03/hysteria-over-jade-h...). It turns out, that information was sourced to Russian psy-ops, as part of their ongoing campaign to delegitimize the United States government in the eyes of its people by sowing doubt and mistrust. Quite a bit of overlap, I think, with the QAnon conspiracy claims. A conspiracy of multiple independent and often opposed organizations maintaining secrecy about a rigged election, or suppressing information about a CIA operation to raid an election machine manufacturer, strains the limits of credibility. But a Russian psyop inventing a story like that and feeding it to a public convinced that the mainstream media is not to be trusted and looking for alternative sources to find out what's "really going on..." that's not only plausible, it's already happened in the past. The recent past.
Let's assume for the sake of argument that the mainstream media is either corrupt or incompetent and not to be trusted. Why should we trust the alternative sources you link to me instead? Lacking a history of journalistic integrity (or, from what I can tell, any attempt to follow basic journalistic practice, such as validating stories with multiple independent sources), wouldn't the sources you're using be at least as susceptible to state actor manipulation as mainstream media, if not more so? Mainstream media not having the truth doesn't imply that we accept the alternative that the truth can be found at brighteon.com.
Military Comissions (Tribunals) has cleared their calendar.
Check their calendar in 2019. It was clear from 12/16 through 12/31.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163367/2020...
""" Texas has not suffered harm simply because it dislikes the result of the election, and nothing in the text, history, or structure of the Constitution supports Texas’s view that it can dictate the manner in which four other states run their elections. Nor is that view grounded in any precedent from this Court. Texas does not seek to have the Court interpret the Constitution, so much as disregard it. """
As much as Texas tends to be on the "state's rights" side of things usually, they're really off the bead here. There is, indeed, no legal mechanism by which Texas can say "We have the wrong President because Pennsylvania didn't follow its laws." They could say "Pennsylvania violated Federal voting law via discrimination," but they aren't trying to say that. What they're trying to argue is they suffered harm because PA's laws allow too much chance of fraud, and our government doesn't work that way in general. PA could pass a law saying that everyone gets to write a name on a piece of paper and put it in a giant hat, and the first name drawn is who they'll send their electors to vote for, and there's no grounds by which Texas could contest that. State voting process (barring violations of the 14th Amendment or the Voting Rights Act) are State affairs.
It's the best chance Trump has to somehow become President and it's already DOA.
All they got to do is convince the state legislatures.
That's a short trip to never being reelected again, so it's a tall order. One state legislature might be stupid enough to do it. Two is staggeringly unlikely. The margin of victory is too high for it to matter if one does.
I don't know what evidence the link you just provided is supposed to be in this situation; True The Vote fails to indicate why the company in question isn't supposed to have access to that file. And given TTV's history, I don't assume that they know one way or the other.
And as far as citing mainstream media goes, that's now like quoting CCP press releases, i.e. party propaganda.
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-cia-director-gi...
Friendly reminder that Reuters is a UK news agency and has nothing in particular to gain from lying about this sort of thing (and everything to lose, since news agencies trade on credibility). but I'm sure QAnon already assumes they're part of the conspiracy. It has to. It is the nature of the conspiracy theory to address contradictions of fact by growing the conspiracy without bound until it encompasses everyone except the "true believers," who know what's "really going on." Somehow, it sadly never occurs to them that it is far more likely that the world is in fact round than a multi-decade multi-nation conspiracy is keeping a flat Earth secret.