A real shame as I really need something like this in my life - both personal and professional.
Hopefully open source soon!
The reason for e2ee is so you don't have to trust the provider. If you're hosting stuff yourself why wouldn't you trust your own infra? As long as you've got a TLS connection to and from your servers + encryption at rest, client side encryption gives no particular benefits.
Am also keeping an eye on https://anytype.io but I still haven't been drawn for their closed alpha grrrr
My company is evaluating Notion as a replacement for Confluence mostly, though we are looking at it's Kanban features also.
We've just launched our Documents feature, aiming to be a G Docs/Confluence alternative. Still early days though!
On top of that there's so much tracking going on that even Facebook would be jealous.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Check out their T&C and Privacy Policy:
https://www.notion.so/Terms-Conditions-4e1c5dd3e3de45dfa4a8e...
https://www.notion.so/Privacy-Policy-3468d120cf614d4c9014c09...
At least on Dropbox, S3, OneDrive, etc. we can encrypt our own data (which I actually do). There is no such option in Notion.
I'd be interested to see examples/arguments where it works though.
All they could access was a service logs.
We’re too deep in Notion internally to jump to something else now, but if was going to try anything else, given the Linear.app team’s track record, this would definitely be my first evaluation.
Beyond that, I use Syncthing (highly recommend if you're on Android) and I sync my Joplin notes between my PC, laptop, and Android. It works flawlessly.
Having said all that, as a user of Notion I've been incredibly impressed. Their support staff seem friendly and responsive and they keep making the product better and better.
My only gripes are the weird password email confirmation of the mobile app login, and that I can't use it as a Zettelkasten.
Other than that, it really is fantastic. The Kanban and other features meant that it's replaced other apps I was using for both work and personal. It really is worth a try.
Other than that and the terrible performance I love Notion and I really hope they get this sorted. I'll even keep paying for my personal account (drop in the bucket, I know) in the hopes that they will.
The only other option would be for me to create my own solution, and while I could do that, I don't have the time or the desire to do it.
I think you got to be careful and read the TOS and know what you're in for. For example, I stopped using the free version of Grammarly after I found out they weren't GDPR compliant and their support wouldn't confirm if they were going to be GDPR compliant. A year later I evaluated Grammarly again and they were, so I subscribed to Grammarly premium.
However some companies are so egregious in their lack of respect of privacy that I will never trust them again, for example Facebook. Others are so impossible to get away from, like Google, that I limit my exposure as much as possible.
Bottom line is be aware of how your privacy will be handled and make sure you're conscious of the trade off decisions you're making.
In the case of business data governance, though, the legal requirements for storage, security, and privacy go far beyond GDPR. The difficulty there is that even small things such as contact info, appointment locations and dates, timelines, etc. are covered by those contracts.