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Do you mean we should be 'more critical' of the reports that China is operating genocidal concentration camps aimed at exterminating the Uyghur culture?

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How many deaths has this genocide produced?

All the information on this comes from just a few American sources

That is a bald faced lie. The information comes from Uyghurs who managed to escape. The true scale of the genocide will likely not be known until/unless the CCP is dismantled and its members put on trial.

We should probably be more critical of attempts to use the Chinese atrocities against the Uyghur as a method to deflect attention from other actors' bad deeds.

> be more critical of attempts to use the Chinese atrocities against the Uyghur

It's shocking to try to put any positive spin on this.

Yes, the West has done bad. But this is state-sponsored genocide.

> It's shocking to try to put any positive spin on this.

I'm not.

I'm saying "What the Chinese have done to the Uyghur is bad" is a perfectly fine statement. I object to stuff like "stop whining about conditions in ICE detention when there's stuff like the Uyghur genocide happening". It's generally done in bad faith.

I agree.

I wasn't doing that, and I explicitly called that point out. I don't think the OP was trying to shift blame either.

I also think the incoming administration will do a lot to fix it. I don't see any change in China's Uyghur strategy without strong international posturing.

Yes, China is doing a bad thing (understatement of the century). When the world moved against apartheid in South Africa, trade with them stopped altogether. Apple phones, and a million other consumer products, are still coming over from China. Stopping that would be a good start.

But then we've got TikTok, which some American lefties are using to exercise their free speech. The ticket-buying campaign around Trump's rally in Tulsa really seemed to ignite Trump's ire. Is this about the atrocities, is it about national security, or is it about Trump's ego? I can get behind the first, I'm weary about the second, and cannot tolerate the third.

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