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> Or not I guess as it means I won't be buying anything today

Honestly, people who don't use their computers as Facebook machines or have very specific things they want to do with the ML engine should probably stay away from Arm Macs for a couple years. There's bound to be plenty of software that doesn't work or doesn't work well, Docker will have ~limited usefulness until more and more people publish Arm images, etc. Plus I'm waiting for the typical Apple move of screwing early adopters by announcing that next year's model is 3x as fast, $200 cheaper, etc.

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Hmmm... What is the day 1 ability for, say, a systems programmer to run VSCode/golang development locally? It'd be neat to find out. The fact that they don't say doesn't tell me much, either it's "not a problem" or it's "such a problem we won't talk about it".

Both should work in Rosetta for now and I expect them to become native in the next few months.

The Visual Studio Code team tweeted that they are targeting a release for the Insiders channel by the end of November.

https://twitter.com/code/status/1326237772860981249?ref_src=...

> Plus I'm waiting for the typical Apple move of screwing early adopters by announcing that next year's model is 3x as fast, $200 cheaper, etc.

They aren’t screwed, the early adopters adopt the new model early by definition. They get the new model and the move on to the next new model.

I know several of these bold individuals.

I didn't watch the event, but if you have an Intel MacBook, will everything keep working as it is now? Even when upgrading to Big Sur?

Yeah, there’s no change for Intel Mac owners really. Given Apple will still be selling Intel Macs through 2021 and likely 2022, I’d expect them to be fully supported through something like 2026/7 (though your exact model may vary depending on its current age).

Such a good point. I wonder how many folks don't actually realize there's a different ecosystem for Docker x86 and ARM images.

Will Apple to transparent emulation (x86-on-ARM) or just not run x86 binaries?

Rosetta 2 is a x86_64 to ARM64 translation layer.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/apple_silicon/abou...

Some things still won't run though. Among other issues, there's a page size difference (16 kb vs 4 kb) that bit Chrome (since fixed): https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=110219...

> Some things still won't run though. Among other issues, there's a page size difference (16 kb vs 4 kb) that bit Chrome (since fixed): https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=110219...

Rosetta 2 on shipping hardware uses 4kb pages; it was only the DTK that was 16kb-only.

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