Anecdotally, I not only do not work with any of the former, but can't imagine a workplace that would suffer them. At the same time, I work with multiple people that are proud, self-proclaimed members of the latter group.
And as a european, I can tell you with high degree of certainty that absolutely zero of your friends or workmates are actually socialists or communists. It's possible they embrace socialist ideals, as Sanders does, but Sanders is at best a moderate left-wing here in europe.
You folks in the US developed a weird hatred of the word "socialism", equating it with the ridiculous dictatorial ideals of Stalin, Castro etc. But although socialism has a hard time working, that doesn't mean some of its ideas don't work in a democracy.
Here in europe, "free health care" is not socialism. It's a human right. Human rights are fun, you should try them.
Are you under the hallucination that I'm required to offer my services to the government so others can receive their surgery?
This is your problem, you have associated "socialism" with slavery, ergo you refuse to hear any arguments that has the word "social" in it because it's automatically bad by association.
Maybe start to accept that your fellow Americans don't actually want slavery, but maybe are instead unhappy with the completely fucking absurd and insane private health insurance system?
It is truly mind boggling, the mental jumps some of you folks are ready to make, to arrive at the conclusion that your life would be made worse were you to take example from countries that have it better than you. Because God forbid the US isn't number 1 in everything.
Now add 100% taxes. That's full-blown slavery.
Now cut the taxes to 50%. That's 50% slavery.
Like, seriously, you can't keep using public infrastructure and services and think taxes are slavery. The amount of shit you use daily that is funded by your taxes, hell, that is funded by my taxes as well from across the globe, is unreal. You would have to go find some virgin island and live off the land of you were to take this ridiculous argument to its logical conclusion.
And you're probably paying for private insurance right now. Either because you have to, or because your employer makes you. A socialized healthcare system would be more efficient and fair on everyone, you included. How do I know? I had to have sinusoidal surgery two years ago and didn't have to run a fucking indigogo campaign to pay for it.
Increasing taxes is not increasing slavery.
Decreasing taxes is not reducing slavery.
Socialized healthcare is not slavery.
Anyway, I'm reasonably confident that if we tallied the deaths resulting from racism and collectivism, collectivism would win handily.
It's not bad faith. You need to accept you are working off a different vocabulary. Your shitty media abuses this to stoke the divide.
Neither definition is more correct, but it stands to reason that people arguing in favour of "socialism in politics" aren't Stalinists, for fucks sake. If anyone tells you that, they are trying to rile you up. And if you believe them, you're a fool.
What is the worst possible interpretation of socialism, communism, collectivism, and the new Woke cult?