If about 47% of your country was happy to kill democracy and reward immoral behaviour just to retain power, often justified by religious beliefs...
And Trump is not gone yet... Who knows what the Republicans will do with the stacked Supreme Court...
There are many valid reasons to vote for all candidates and the weighting of the issues is personal and perhaps not everyone agrees with the weighting that you do.
And these 47% would say exactly the same thing about the others. That’s the divide GP was pointing out and ironically your response is perpetuating it. Stop dehumanizing people.
I can't speak for the beliefs or rationale of the people who voted for him but its crystal clear what Donald Trump stood for.
I don't think its dehumanizing to talk about the fact that lots people, many or most individually good, chose to vote for a sexist, racist, authoritarian.
And does anybody really doubt at this point that Trump is those things?
Even though it is a difficult, unpleasant, and heated conversation to have.
What do you think those 47% want with gays, abortion (is murder!!!!) and foreigners?
Knowing full well what this last administration is up to?
Trump didn’t run on an anti-gay platform.
You’re right that anti-abortion is still big. Until you can convince people that it’s not murder, it’s pretty hard to get them to back down from that stance. This is honestly the only reason the Republicans trap so much of the religious vote.
“Foreigners” is also not something Republicans are against, it’s illegal immigration that’s the complaint. That’s why they support reforms that still allow significant immigration.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/07/21/trump...
> Our laws and our government’s regulations should recognize marriage as the union of one man and one woman and actively promote married family life as the basis of a stable and prosperous society. For that reason, as explained elsewhere in this platform, we do not accept the Supreme Court’s redefinition of marriage and we urge its reversal, whether through judicial reconsideration or a constitutional amendment returning control over marriage to the states. We oppose government discrimination against businesses or entities which decline to sell items or services to individuals for activities that go against their religious views about such activities.
https://gop.com/platform/renewing-american-values/#Item2
> Traditional marriage and family, based on marriage between one man and one woman, is the foundation for a free society and has for millennia been entrusted with rearing children and instilling cultural values. We condemn the Supreme Court’s ruling in United States v. Windsor, which wrongly removed the ability of Congress to define marriage policy in federal law. We also condemn the Supreme Court’s lawless ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges, which in the words of the late Justice Antonin Scalia, was a “judicial Putsch” — full of “silly extravagances” — that reduced “the disciplined legal reasoning of John Marshall and Joseph Storey to the mystical aphorisms of a fortune cookie.” In Obergefell, five unelected lawyers robbed 320 million Americans of their legitimate constitutional authority to define marriage as the union of one man and one woman. The Court twisted the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment beyond recognition. To echo Scalia, we dissent. We, therefore, support the appointment of justices and judges who respect the constitutional limits on their power and respect the authority of the states to decide such fundamental social questions.
- To make H1b people less appealing to companies, keeping them out - To hurt the companies that hire them (often more left leaning)
The republicans might be crying about it, but they have zero proof. Whereas they've literally given us their plan out loud of how they were going to cheat. And they followed through.
You might think that they have zero proof, but they're definitely doing their best to find something (https://twitter.com/toad_spotted/status/1325124277503406080), although a lot can be explained without "cheating" (https://twitter.com/HayekAndKeynes/status/132519429924449075...).
(Also, witnessing the ceding of Hong Kong to China two decades ahead of schedule did make me appreciate the projection of soft power where USG had been keeping order without dropping bombs)
If you think half the country wants to rewrite the Constitution and remove democracy...I'm not really sure what to say.
A more plausible explanation here would be indifference. Maybe they don't want to remove democracy, but not exactly trying to uphold it over everything else either.
Maybe seeing your cult of personality hero in office, or your religion or your flavour of boogieman (=not losing the country to commies kind of thinking) has ultimately higher priority than keeping the democracy alive.
I'm not saying that's what is happening, I'm just saying I can see how masses can smother democracy without specifically having the intention to kill it.
disclaimer: non-US, my opinion on anything US would be at best inaccurate.
Perhaps I’m overly-cynical, but in my (limited) experience, most people just don’t pay enough attention for such motivations — or even expectations — to be plausible.
And you know this. And Joe Biden knew this when he made the same claim in one of the debates. It's gaslighting, and it bothers me that absolutely nobody called him out on it. Court packing is a red line that nobody should cross. I feel it's important that we all choose our words carefully so that it continues to stay off the table.
What actually happened was that large numbers of voters are stuck in a filter bubble and their only news sources were telling them the election was being stolen. So by supporting Trump they probably thought they were defending democracy.
Of course, those particular news stories were pure lies. But we should focus on the peddlers of lies more than those who were duped by them.