Gimp 2.99.2 – GTK3 user interface toolkit

Yes, but there's no inherent reason why there can't be something similar or even more powerful in GNOME and KDE. This is not an argument about "who is superior", picking camps or "who copies whom". Linux clearly has a higher ratio of power users than OS X so it'd make sense to have UX catering for them.

That requires administrative staff to run the fundraiser, handle the accounting, do the hiring...

s/They just should have done/I will do/ please.

And you should have done what Bezos did and become a multimillionaire.

That is prokoudine's point: you need to get the fundamental switch to GTK3 done first and only then start to implement non-destructive editing.

1) That is precisely my point. End-users often think that new stuff can be easily added on top of older stuff, and if developers don't do that, they are just stupid, shortsighted, or whatever. For 2.10, we had to finish the GEGL port to give people much anticipated things like high bit depth precision editing (up to 32f per channel). For 3.0, we now have to port GIMP to an actually maintained version of GTK because some things are just broken for good in GTK2, this is mostly done and will be polished in the 2.99.x series. Once it's done, we will have the solid foundations to expose non-destructive editing (unless someone really clever arrives to hack it into v3.0 but I wouldn't hold my breath for that).

2) I'm the guy who wrote a chunk of that release notes (and most of the release notes in the past 10+ years). You don't need to babytalk to me about any of that stuff :)

The problem isn't that people are posting "Hey, I'd really like to use GIMP but I'm still waiting for feature X", the problem is the accusative nature of the comments.

The top comment that started this thread definitely had more than an accusatory aftertaste to it. I can't find the story/interview right now, but GIMP is literally just something like 3 or 4 guys working on it in their spare time.

For a lot of folks, GIMP is a fine photoshop alternative, even for more advanced uses. Is it perfect? Obviously not. But remember, it's just a bunch of devs in their spare time. Don't like it? Then don't use it, these people really don't owe anyone anything. How many devs are working on photoshop full-time? It's fine to point out "unfortunately GIMP isn't quite there as a 1-to-1 photoshop alternative, because [...]", but IMO it's important to do this in a way that doesn't crap all over the dev's best efforts.

I worked on a few projects where people felt they had the desire to come in and say that I "must" implement feature X or Y because "commercial product Y has it". Like, mate, I'm just this random guy with a day job and hobbies outside of software that occasionally works on this. Glad it's useful to you, but you don't tell me what to do. It's probably not your intention, but these kind of comments come off as really shitty.

That appears to be a completely out-of-context comment about GNOME made on a KDE blog for unclear reasons. But anyway, I looked through most of the links in that comment and I'm not entirely sure what you're referring to. There are some heated arguments around technical issues in those mailing list posts, but there are also many positive comments such as this:

>If anything, we have to turn the GNOME community around and make this community a tolerant community, and a community of love. I have to say that I am surprised by how well the gnome-love mailing list has taken of, and surprised to see various newcomers to the platform actually writing code and becoming productive.

Also, that was quite a long time ago (some posts are from earlier than 2003) and most of those people involved in those threads don't appear to be associated with the project anymore. It certainly seems like they were able to work out some of their process issues in the last 17 years seeing as how the bonobo/orbit parts were dropped entirely.

That's a very, very old "manifesto" that was pasted verbatim into almost every FLOSS news site and mailing list at the time (relevant or not), written by a well known troll and harasser who was removed from multiple FLOSS communities.

QT python bindings were rather confusing with multiple libraries and basically very poor documentation when I checked a couple of years ago. Not to mention QTs java binding also was not a good story.

More like "you can change that in dconf, but there's a bug[0] that makes it reset every time you restart the application".

[0] sotto voce "that we're probably never going to fix"

Fortunately, most don't.

"Woke" is a colloquialism roughly analogous to "politically correct", not literally "awake" as in "woke up"; what they're trying to say (I assume, I'm not them or psychic) is that the problem is purely one of people manufacturing outrage over something innocuous, similar to eg, people claiming that using the standard Lena image for image compression examples is sexism.

It actually got renamed to Mitsubishi Montero for the Latin American market.

I’m down voting because of that very reason, yes. And the needless edits to complain about the down votes; this isn’t reddit.

I have no problem with English

I speak Italian as native language, for me GIMP is just a name, like the BALKARP IKEA sofa, I consider it a bunch of letter stuck together that represent something, but don't mean anything and if they sound like something real, it doesn't really matter.

I also speak English, Spanish, some French, some German

Of course I would never call my product "ugly bitch" but of course I wouldn't also call it pizza

And yet Martin Odersky language before Scala was named pizza

I wouldn't call it merda (it means shit, in the worst possible way)

There's an American band called black merda (in Italian it translates as black shit) they used it because it sound like murder in English

You have to understand that English is not the Lingua franca of anything, at best English spoken by non native English people is

You have to accept that speaking someone else's language doesn't mean you have to accept every cultural issue that people born with it might have

Photoshop is as ridiculous as gimp and I would never take seriously a software in Italian that is called "negozio di foto" from a company called "addobbo" for the operating system "finestre" or "mela"

It's something that would make me think of the kindergarten

But I accept it, ridiculous as they sound, because they are just brands, you get used to it and live on

GIMP is the best of the lotto because it means GNU image manipulation program, it's the most professional name of them all

And GNU is not the animal, is an acronym

If English people have a problem with their language, it's not a global problem

and btw, what all of you are getting wrong by supporting this infinite rant on the name of this particular program that come out every single time it is mentioned, is that the name is GIMP the all uppercase acronym not gimp the noun

Like IBM or IKEA or SKYPE or YAHOO (yes, they are all acronyms, funny that nobody seems to have anything to say about the professionalism of a software whose name is pronounced "sky pee" while billionaire CEOs use it and refer to it all the time...)

It's a GNU tradition to use them

Only who knows nothing about GNU and free software could find it offensive