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Let's just allow to downvote submissions so poor ones will be pushed down.

This will also diminish number of comments, because: there are lots of comments because there are lots of (poor) submissions...

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You could downvote the submissions but I think the main benefit of HN is in the discussion and commentary. I personally read the comments before I click on a story because I like to have a frame of reference when choosing to read an article. I don't think a post should be ranked on its upvotes but on its number of comments and range of discussion.

I should also add that just because a submission is bad doesn't mean the discussion under it isn't worthwhile.

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