Yes, I was working in Silicon Valley for a company that was also using Mozilla technologies.

I remember the XULRunner meetups with them, in Mozilla HQ where the Moz people were basically saying:

- OK, our product is Firefox. We focus on fixing bugs that affect Firefox, so if the bug in XULRunner doesn't affect it you're on your own. Feel free to send a patch.

- Yeah we did that, the patch have been sitting in Bugzilla for 2 years

- ... shrug

Anyway even with full support of Mozilla they probably wouldn't have survived to iTunes+iPod, but clearly using a technology that the vendor has no interest in didn't help them.

I'm surprised anyone still does. Unfortunately that was deeply tied into the Mozilla stack, and they didn't want to be a platform vendor, so just running an old version isn't really tenable.

(To bring things back on topic, I believe a couple of people involved in Songbird was previously related to Winamp.)

Sure, https://www.my-old-version.com/songbird/

I remember it! Oh My God! This was 15 years ago...

The Hype Machine is still up, it was one of the bookmarks/start pages in it IIRC: https://hypem.com/

Yes. It was a pig for resources and altogether miserable to use.