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I disagree a bit here. Spam folders has turned big tech into gatekeepers.

I run a data driven self help website and there is no paywall or advertising on the website. Everyone clearly signs up for emails. I still get above 0.5% spam+bounce ratio which means I need to ask Amazon for forgiveness everytime I email. (4x per year)

Yes I purge the lists, don't use clickbait, etc...

If 0.5% can get you into spam folders, this is an easy attack vector to silence someone.

My bigger question is how Walmart, Joann Fabrics, and HBO get into my mailbox. I'm sure they get "marked as spam" by more than 0.5%

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I keep telling the spam filters to let some stuff in and they still bounce it in there. Though to be fair they get most of the stuff. About 2 years ago I went from maybe 100 or so a month to well over 1500 a week now. Got on some list...

Back over a decade ago, I managed to get Yahoo! interested in me as a potential employee...

I would have never known if I hadn,t looked through my Spam on Gmail.

I didn,t get the job, but I got a nice aep to San Jose and back.

It was from a yahoo-inc.com address, probably not used for spam much.

Since then, never trusted it... I comb through all my spam every couple of days. Takes only couple of minutes to skim it 20 at a time.

Would recommend, technique has paid off.

Some emails don't even get to the spam folder. Well idk if gmail works like that, but I know some systems do.

I, too, have observed this.

There's a BIG difference between "data driven self-help" emails from a self-proclaimed "marketing pro" and on-topic development discussion and patchsets.

Yes, based on my experience with discussion email lists, the data-driven emails have a better chance of getting through.

Meanwhile I'm grepping through mailing list server logs and going "your provider accepted it without error, don't know why it's not hitting your inbox."

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