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You are braking the TOS by downloading videos from YouTube so it’s not legal.

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YouTube's TOS is not law.

Also, Youtube's TOS is not Gihub's TOS, and is not the RIAA's TOS.

If this standard form contract is relevant at all (depending on country and other factors), it has nothing to do with copyright. As far as copyright is concerned, see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Corp._of_America_v._Unive....

I don't have to agree to TOS in order to download, hell, I don't have to do so even when I am using the service.

> I don't have to agree to TOS in order to download, hell, I don't have to do so even when I am using the service.

I believe TOS violations per-se aren't covered by the DMCA, but by the CFAA (Computer Fraud and Abuse Act) instead.

In any case, DOES the YouTube TOS actually forbid the use of alternate clients to download and view videos?

Yes

Interesting. Does the RIAA have standing to enforce the TOS, or only YouTube?

Doesn't YouTube offer a premium service that allows d/l of videos?

Youtube red or something I think it's called.

What's the difference in using youtube-dl to d/l copyright video or using youtube premium to d/l said copyright video.

Note: I have not used youtube res service so idk how it works

You don't get access to the file itself, it's only viewable inside the Youtube app. It's DRM'd content, subject to Youtube's corporate decision making (they might revoke access and wipe the video at any time), or put arbitrary limits on it that wouldn't be there if you had the actual file itself. Basically the content producer (like a music label) lends Youtube their content, and then Youtube lends it to you.

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