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Configuring a mail server with Postfix (ebook, in progress)

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Although the conventional wisdom of the day seems to be it's better/easier to outsource your mail servers, setting up one yourself is not hard, if you're not handling huge amounts of mail and already have a system you can put your MX on.

There are definitely reasons to run your own mail server. However, I've found (in my 7 years as a linux sysadmin/dev) that email is one of the harder services to setup, compared to http, database, etc.

It's the only service I use a GUI for to administer. Something about having to compile the aliases, and I get confused with the spamassasin settings.

What GUI are you using?

Compiling aliases? I guess you are not using virtual domains and sql storage?

If there was one GUI for configuration and management of every service mentioned in the book would you consider switching and paying a small fee for such a tool?

I had an old mac server, so I use Apple's gui. TBH, I don't even know if its sendmail or postfix under the hood.

Never even got started using virtual domains. I just run emails for one domain, so it never sounded like I should setup the virtual ones.

I can't envision a situation where I would really need to do anything sophisticated with an email server, when I wouldn't just use google apps. I can do the basic "send and receive" email from my server, and I was able to let my gmail send through that (removing the "on behalf of" header).

But other than that I'm probably a hosted email guy all the way. I've never spent any money on email stuff or been focused on it, so I don't have any feel for costs.

The Horror, the horror!!! I did this a few years ago and it was super painful, so ebook would be great!!

While it is very easy to find services that will send your email for you it is imho difficult to find services that will allow you to send and receive bulk email. When you give users of your service custom email addresses, you can start to do really cool things, like have users reply back to comments via email.

SendGrid does this with a nice HTTP API.

Tell me about it. I wanted to move a client of mine from a dedicated box to a cheaper, more powerful VPS. They have a monthly newsletter with about 17k subscribers (opt-in, managed by a list server package).

I inquired about their policy, and they pretty much treated me like I was found under a rock. In spite of us running a clean site (I showed the the URL for the newsletter page, and our clean multi-RBL lookup), and they still wanted me to agree to this BS terms-of-service page with such unreasonable terms I dropped the entire idea.

Which is a shame, since the current provider really sucks, from a support perspective, but they've never been unreasonable about, you know, using the internet to send mail to a bunch of people at once.

Between this attitude and rabid mail admins with unreasonable RBL policies (like flat-out rejecting a message for being listed on only 1 of ~40 or so public RBLs -- one that demands money for immediate delisting), I've witnessed a slow Balkanization of the internet over the years.

That's true. That is a reason I do not allow sending out mass emails from the main mail servers IP address. You never know who will be trigger happy.

If for some reason bulk mailing providers do not suit you it cheaper to have a separate machine/IP address for sending such emails than having to deal with important emails not coming through because somebody blacklisted your IP address although he subscribed to the mailing list.

Good stuff. There is also workaround.org's ISPmail tutorials : http://workaround.org/ispmail

Those are also nice. But I always find something missing in the available tutorials. Sometimes it's vacation auto reply, sometimes DKIM signing, etc...

And of course the tutorial for Debian Squeeze is not yet available.

Disclosure: I am the author of the book this link points to.

kudos for the book. I really liked it. Will/Could you add a section for Dovecot also?

Thank you.

I don't believe I will be doing a Dovecot chapter anytime soon, for the reasons I stated at the beginning of http://gogs.info/books/debian-mail/chunked/courier.html

But, I must admit, I really like Dovecots Sieve filtering.

I do plan to publish the books Docbook sources on Github, hopefully someone who has more experience with Dovecot would be interested in contributing.

I run dovecot on my FreeBSD box. I'd be happy to contribute a fork on Github. You can find me on github with the same handle.

I'll be interested to see what information within this ebook more relevant or upto date than something like "Postfix the definitive guide" from the O'Reilly series. When I configured my first mail server it was all very cryptic but then I had very little sysadmin experience at the time. I honestly feel postfix is very easy to setup and its the main reason I chose it over other mail servers like exim, qmail or sendmail. I only became aware of the added performance bonus after running bulk mailing at 1 million emails per hour.

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