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Would love to see charts of mortality over the years for other countries. If you guys know such, please post!

Here is one for Germany:

https://www.destatis.de/DE/Themen/Querschnitt/Corona/Gesells...

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Here's one from the CDC for excess deaths in the U.S. and its states:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

The excess deaths during the pandemic are not subtle in these graphs. If the data is accurate and the comparison with Sweden is valid, then it does tend to support the importance herd immunity to this virus.

There is no herd immunity in Sweden and it was never a stated goal. New infections are trending up the same as everywhere else. The official statistics dashboard can be found here: https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6...

How does this support herd immunity? Herd immunity wouldn’t lead to the distinction between the US and Sweden unless Sweden achieved herd immunity before the virus was being tracked.

Explain what you mean by "herd immunity"? It is normally achieved through vaccination; if you mean "wait until most of the population has had the disease", you'd need to wait until the US death toll was much higher to achieve that.

Dutch numbers appear to be here: https://opendata.cbs.nl/statline/#/CBS/nl/dataset/70895ned/t...

Only covers 2015-now : https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/#z-scores-by-country

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