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Andy Kelley (of Zig) intimidated into vacating apartment for Hulu filming

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All: I made some redactions in this thread after we got a complaint about (possible) doxxing. All of the changes are marked [redacted].

More explanation at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704

FWIW, I think the complaint was legitimate and the redaction was well handled.

In a perfect world there'd be a marker for "this post has been edited by an administrator", but clearly marking each change makes do in a pinch.

TL;DW: Andy lives in a rented apartment in Portland that Hulu’s “Shill” series wanted to film in, but couldn’t agree on compensation levels. Landlord (who lives in the building) basically decided he wants this thing done, and started the whole “crazy neighbour” routine: shouting through walls, insulting him, staring through windows, taking down the mailbox, and removing the wifi network. Andy seems to have moved out, and I guess will sue the guy for breaching the lease.

The landlord seems like a piece of work. All this to be able to say at parties “hey, my house was used to film that tv series <that nobody remembers anymore>”. I hope somebody throws the book at him.

Even sadder, the production crew doesn’t seem to care. I guess you don’t win an Emmy without breaking some dude’s life, or something.

What the ? Sounds like a amateur mob intimidation. Would hope Hulu does the right thing and severely punishes this unacceptable behavior. Who do people think they are, really?

The landlord, a [redacted] engineer, was bragging about it on LinkedIn: [link redacted]

Here's hoping he'll be rethinking his "backup career" real soon, then.

Some part of me is hoping he'll have to fall back on a backup career after this kind of behavior.

[redacted] corporate would probably be interested in knowing one of their yield engineers has such a flexible moral compass and propensity to break the law. If he'll do this for his house to appear in a web show what would be do when Vladimir from Russia offers him $1.000.000 to stick a USB drive into his work machine?

> [redacted] corporate would probably be interested in knowing one of their yield engineers has such a flexible moral compass and propensity to break the law.

Be careful. They might use that as justification to promote him to Vice President and put him on the board.

@dang: so far googling these posts' texts does not lead me to the linkedin page or profile. Please redact this if you believe it constitues doxxing.

The linkedin post text is something like this:

"Shrill Season 3 will be filming at my house in [place] starting on [date]. A new character on the show will be living at my house.

Maybe show-business will be my backup career."

There's a follow up post which reads:

"Please ignore posts about me from a disgruntled tenant. I wish to keep the issue private. Issues related to tampering and damage to my property are involved."

Here's the video that Andrew uploaded to show some evidence of harassment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGYUAgXR8Y0

I believe the landlord feels compelled to make it happen because he's already told people that it is for sure happening.

[link redacted]

Of course the guy works at [redacted]...

I redacted this comment - explanation at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24895704

We got a user complaint about this thread containing doxxing. I know that word means different things to different people, but generally we try to err on the side of avoiding such things, since it's not in keeping with or necessary for HN's mandate. I've redacted this comment accordingly, to take out personal info.

I don't get it. If the landlord wants the filming to happen so badly, why doesn't he kick in a few grand to compensate his tenant... That's a lot easier than kicking and screaming all night.

They are clearly not being rational. Andy leaving for his personal safety is absolutely the right move.

Anyone this aggressive with demonstrably impaired judgement presents a significant threat.

Almost all the time they'll come to their senses. Sometimes they'll escalate.

I have been present for an escalation, a completely irrational one that totally ruined the guy's life. And he was more pulled together beforehand than the behavior in that video.

When people say poverty affects your brain, this is one of the things they mean. Now, the landlord probably isn't poor, but from a poor or normal background, where money isn't abundant enough for such solutions.

He's a [redacted] yield engineer, and property owner. Not sure where poverty comes into play.

[link redacted]

It sounds like the opposite, to me. He's a man whose moral compass only aligns to his own self-interest, what's going to enrich him more at any cost, which happens when people lose empathy.

In general, poverty makes humans kinder and more charitable, not crazy and dishonest, while selfishness and apathy for others scales with wealth and resources.

> This is retaliation related to the taping of Shrill Season 3.

Just to know what to skip

This is an awful situation for Andy. Very sad he has had to go through this.

Seems like simple enough thing to bring attention to while everyone else is stuck indoors self isolating anyway.

Why has no one suggested he call the police yet?

My bad I noticed on twitter he has once already

"Updates: * he started played the song again. * he started staring at me through my front window and banging on it. * I phoned 911. Two police offers arrived and got him to stop playing the music."

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