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Facts in support of the laptop being genuine:

- The laptop had emails on it that were previously not public

- The laptop had pictures of Hunter and family that were previously not public

- They have Hunter's signature on the drop off receipt

- Hunter's attorney requested the hard drive back (they have the request in writing)

- The FBI subpeonaed the laptop

- The DNI himself says it's not a Russian disinformation campaign and that there's not intelligence saying it is

- No one in the Biden campaign has denied the laptop itself is genuine (only that they couldn't find a meeting on the books that matches the one in the email)

Facts in support of the laptop coming from Vladimir Putin:

- Literally nothing

By the way, he guy at the computer store came forward as to why he got in contact with Rudy Giuliani. He went to the FBI with the info and got stonewalled by them. Sensing they were covering it up, he decided to become a whistleblower and went to whoever would listen.

> - The laptop had emails on it that were previously not public

Have yet to be authenticated though?

> - They have Hunter's signature on the drop off receipt

Can't find a source for this - only that it says "Hunter Biden". Do you have a handy URL?

> - Hunter's attorney requested the hard drive back (they have the request in writing)

Again, can't find a source that doesn't say "allegedly" in the sentence. Do you have a handy URL with proof?

> - The FBI subpeonaed the laptop

Given they seem to think it's a Russian disinformation play being made through the campaign team of POTUS, yeah, I'd expect them to be going through it with a fine toothcomb to find out who, where, when, etc.

> The DNI himself says it's not a Russian disinformation campaign

Alas, his credibility is probably lower even than Guiliani's.

> that there's not intelligence saying it is

The FBI seem to be approaching things from the point of view that it is a Russian op. Awkward!

> No one in the Biden campaign has denied the laptop itself is genuine

They've also not denied that Hunter Biden is a lizard person. SUSPICIOUS.

Are you using two accounts or is this two different russian agents posting?

Alas, just the one account and doubly alas, no pay check from Russia. Pretty sure their rates for being controlled opposition on HN wouldn't really cover my needs.

UPDATE - News out this morning that DOJ is also confirming the laptop is genuine. You're, of course still welcome to cognitive dissonance away the entire subject and believe it's some Russian plot.

>- The laptop had emails on it that were previously not public

Not public no, but in the posession of Vlad since January as reported here: https://thehill.com/policy/technology/478090-russia-hacked-u...

>- The laptop had pictures of Hunter and family that were previously not public

I hear Jennifer Lawrence is part of the Ukraine scandal now too.

>- They have Hunter's signature on the drop off receipt

As already established, Vlad has Burisma's emails, so we already know he has Biden's signature.

> - Hunter's attorney requested the hard drive back (they have the request in writing)

Yes, Hunter's lawyers would probably want access to the fabricated evidence used to attack his father. That doesn't make it authentic.

> - The FBI subpeonaed the laptop

The fact the FBI investigated and didn't pursue Biden is evidence the material is not reliable.

> - The DNI himself says it's not a Russian disinformation campaign and that there's not intelligence saying it is

Ah yes, Trump's political appointee thinks Trump's personal lawyer is doing the Lords work. I'm so surprised. The ranking member of the houes intellgience committee disagrees.

>- No one in the Biden campaign has denied the laptop itself is genuine (only that they couldn't find a meeting on the books that matches the one in the email)

Because the ownership of a laptop is not the scandal, it's the fabricated Russian-sourced smear campaign is.

>By the way, he guy at the computer store came forward as to why he got in contact with Rudy Giuliani. He went to the FBI with the info and got stonewalled by them. Sensing they were covering it up, he decided to become a whistleblower and went to whoever would listen.

I'd love to get into the process by which a blind computer repair person trusted Rudy Giuliani more than the FBI.

Oof, all of that and not a shred of evidence to back any of it up. Propaganda is a powerful force. Do some research on your own.

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