Animation of how bridges were built in Central Europe in the Middle Ages [video]
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Its description says
"3D graphics and post-production: Tomáš Mustlek
Professional cooperation: Ing. Arch. Ondřej Šefců Graphic cooperation: Mgr. Zdeněk Mazač
More information about Charles Bridge can be found at http://praha-archeologicka.cz/p/212
The digital model "Charles Bridge - construction of a pillar and vault field in the 14th century" was created for the project of the virtual exhibition Prague of the Time of Charles IV. The project is supported by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Czech Republic as part of the National Celebrations of the 700th Anniversary of the Birth of Emperor Charles IV and is included in the AV21 Strategy programme."
[0] https://www.novinky.cz/domaci/clanek/jak-vypada-karluv-most-...
1:26' into the video - Is that guy praying? Read there are statues of Saints on the bridge.
Found an image of 1872 flood - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bridge#/media/File:FFr...
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voroplavba_v_%C4%8Cech%C3%A1ch
Haha, you mean the long bearded guy with a dog sitting next to him? That was a commercial for a search engine [0]. The premise of the commercial is that people come to this wise old man for advice and he seems to know everything, while in reality he just uses the search engine to look up the information.
> 1:26' into the video - Is that guy praying? Read there are statues of Saints on the bridge.
There's a lot of statues [1] but my first guess would be that the guy was simply begging for money. I could be wrong though.
[1] https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sochy_na_Karlov%C4%9B_most%C4%... (the English version of the page doesn't have that many pictures)
Seeing stuff like this, and reading ancient political / philosophical writings, gives me a much-needed reality check.
We are just as smart as our predecessors. We just have a much higher population, a higher % of them are well educated, and we have an enormous body of historical knowledge (as well as easy ways for anyone to access it).
"On the shoulder of giants" etc.
Specialization and trade accelerated with the Industrial Revolution as well; Adam Smith’s division of labour combined with man’s propensity to truck, barter, and exchange.
It is much easier for stupid people to survive today.
Good case are miners areas - men work hard like 12 hours a day under ground and die young. Women have to earn for themselves and for kids once they are dead however possible.
1950 middle class household is not all there is to be about how historical families existed. Most of the time, the amount of work to do was basically infinite. And the more "anyone" could do, the better. That includes 6-7 years old kids who were already expected to be useful. (Here the kids started to work at 5, they would pasture gooses, which is super easy but was to large extend unsupervised).
Also, origin of kindergarten are German cities where both parents worked 12 hours a day in factory and small kids were left to own devices whole day. Obviously we are talking about poorer people here, but poor were large part of society.
Also, asshole.
Most of the time in human history people were struggling to even stay alive. You had to work until you got enough food to feed your family, or you'd die. Live was not great, it was very stressful and inefficient (but people were used to it). This is still the case in most of the world, although overall not as bad as it once was, it is improving constantly.
We're the lucky ones who can sustain ourselve with 8 hours of work, food is cheap and abundant, we can afford luxury items like iphones even if a 300$ android smartphone would do the same job.
No, at average, people are not working harder now, because we don't have to. We managed to improve efficiency so much already and quality of life continues to rise.
Our inefficient stuff is made by people in foreign countries working in factories whose lives really aren't any better than middle ages Europe.
Also, People like farming and hard physical labour. In the suburbs every household has a little miniature hobby farm that yields a useless crop, and people farm it for fun over and above their regular job. When people don't have to do any hard labour as part of their job, they go to a gym and pay money for the privelege of moving heavy things around even though it serves no practical purpose.
All this inefficiency is destroying the planet, which is the dumbest thing of all.
We very much have. We couldn't support our population with 14th century levels of efficiency. We wouldn't have enough farm land, fresh water, etc, etc.
Life expectancy in the most typical manufacturing hotspots is actually better than Western standards of 1900. Even poorer countries today have much better healthcare than Queen Victoria used to have. Middle Ages is right out in this comparison.
> It takes a couple decades of education before a person can even begin to enter the workforce.
This obviously depends on profession. On the contrary, you no longer need to go to college or trade school since everything is online. Seriously, it's amazing how proficient some of these children can get just from YouTube videos.
> Raising kids was once an investment, now people can barely afford to raise 1 or 2.
Hey at least you have a choice now. Before, raising lots of children was almost a necessity in order to help around the farm. Now things are so efficient that you really don't need to raise children at all.
> Our inefficient stuff is made by people in foreign countries working in factories whose lives really aren't any better than middle ages Europe.
Can you provide evidence on this?
> People like farming and hard physical labour
Most people would probably disagree with you on this. There is a big difference between occasional hard labor and doing hard labor every single day. It takes an enormous toll on the body.
> When people don't have to do any hard labour as part of their job, they go to a gym and pay money for the privelege of moving heavy things around even though it serves no practical purpose.
Isn't the purpose to be healthy or look better?
Peasants (over 90% of the society) were usually working less hours but much harder than we do. And they were living in much worse conditions of course.
Farming (especially without modern technology) is very cyclical, most of the time you have too much labour and too little land/food. Then for a few months you have too few people to do everything that needs to be done.
And there was no easy way for vast majority of people to store surplus for more than a few years. And there was a real possibility of starvation if a few factors independent of you happen at the same time.
So the whole society and economy was structured around these constraints - that's why it doesn't follow our intuitions. It made no sense to increase gains by 10% if you had to increase risk by 1% to do that. It made no sense to work harder if you have enough and it's gonna spoil anyway. You're just risking injury to throw it all away later.
There was a great series of articles about it: https://acoup.blog/2020/07/24/collections-bread-how-did-they...
With exception of very rich people in few periods (idle aristocracy, middle class 1950 household), majority of people needed to work a lot. That includes both women and men.
Construction, for example, is incredibly hard work even with modern tools, and they had none of those.
That we can live comfortably with all the modern amenities on 40 hours a week, which for many is just sitting in a chair, typing text, is really good. I'm not bashing office workers here, btw.
Could definitely work less, maybe the push for shorter work days will gain traction.
It's an even more typical mistake to believe that our time is the pinnacle in all respects (because of all the cool gadgets that we have). But we are not the pinnacle in all respects; perhaps the largest danger is that we are delegating all multifaceted work (which ultimately is what produces skill) to automation and/or extreme specialists, so that we can push the enjoyment button (or take the enjoyment pill) in solitude without end.
We are on a path to an 'Idiocracy' type of society which would likely have been an abomination to generations past if they were to see it.
If for example reasoning was automated (we're not there yet, but it is on the horizon) then human capacity for nuance would likely diminish further, to the extent where concepts and ideas might only placed in a 'good' or 'bad' category without capacity for further analysis ...
This might be hard to imagine if you're well educated, already working, and in your 20's and the world seems full of excitement and opportunity but you're held back by the annoying need to pay your bills. If you didn't have to work, you might start a business or spend all day on your side project or whatever. But most people aren't in that position. Often, their only sense of fulfillment comes from their work no matter how unpleasant it is, and they only work because they have to to survive.
Maybe, but it is not because we tend to be overly pessimistic in general, that serious problems cannot happen to us. Entire civilizations have diapered in the past, so we should remain vigilant.
After all, another bias that humans have, is a strong tendency to believe that what is true now, will remain true forever.
I often think about the city-states along the Silk Road: healthy, peaceful, cultured, unprecedented prosperity for their time. All defeated when the hordes of Genghis Kahn rode by, many utterly destroyed
The Empire of Mali. The Kingdom of Lithuania. Macedon. Tyre. Babylon. Carthage. Samarkand. Assyria. All once mighty, all gone, perhaps a place-name remains, if that
Aside from perhaps Macedon and Carthage (indirectly via Rome) most of those don't even warrant a mention in the high school history curriculum (in the US, at least).
The simple fact is that pre-industrial history has had literally thousands of different thriving civilizations around the world. It's simply not possible to even briefly cover anything but a fraction of the more "important" in a non-university setting.
For anyone still paying attention, I should have written "The Grand Duchy of Lithuania", which was a powerful state for hundreds of years in the Middle Ages
The Kingdom of Lithuania, while also powerful, lasted about 2 years
Peace from violent thoughts leading to depression and anxiety which are at all time highs, no.
There were Balkan wars and there were Indian wars, but the vast majority of Western population never served in combat.
And people started thinking that this is how it is going to be forever.
However, I do agree with you that people then thought that world peace was achieved. The 1910 book "The Great Illusion" [2] ironically argued European war was unlikely to start due to the great economic costs of destroying trade between nations. It got the consequences right at least.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Prussian_War [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Illusion
Eh... not really. Anger at the loss of Alsace-Lorraine peaked in the immediate aftermath of the Franco-Prussian War, when France couldn't do anything, but by the 1880s and 1890s, France had resigned itself to the loss. The massive divisions in French society under the Third Republic meant that it was in no position to do anything to reclaim it. A parallel might well be drawn to Finland's position today over Karelia: they'd certainly like it back, but they're not about to fight for it. It wasn't until World War I broke out that restoration of Alsace-Lorraine to French rule really became feasible, and hence it became a major war aim, but it wasn't a factor until after war had already broken out.
The arms race in question is the naval arms race between Britain and Germany, which itself subsided in 1912 because Germany couldn't afford to keep up.
But you're absolutely right; we get to use the infrastructure, explicit (written) knowledge, tacit knowledge of our society, social structures, institutions, legal systems, property distribution, and peacemaking of our predecessors.
"It has been said that the great scientific disciplines are examples of giants standing on the shoulders of other giants. It has also been said that the software industry is an example of midgets standing on the toes of other midgets." -Alan Cooper
We are not smarter than the subset of our predecessors who had the privilege of developing without ever starving.
https://thinkprogress.org/exclusive-elevated-co2-levels-dire...
Even if we doubled yearly increases in ppm we'd be a century away from a measurable impact on human cognition for outdoor air.
A couple of other studies showed no effects of elevated CO2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23161403
Will they think that it was ingenious to design machines in different parts, from different materials, then assembled and shipped to where they are needed? With the limited technology and methods of our time? That we used to engineer and create special machines for these different purposes because in their world, everything you can conceive will come out of replicators [0] instead? Fully functional, no matter which materials it consists of? And humans no longer involved in the design process because a solution was computer generated after stating the purpose of the tool?
Poetry that actually sounds good?
Paintings that make sense and take skill instead of bullshit art?
Repairing relationships and mending things?
Cooking for themselves?
One specific marvel is the self-aligned gate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-aligned_gate)
Evolution rarely produces something useless, especially something that consumes a lot of precious energy like the brain.
More likely these people were exquisitely knowledgeable about their environment.
Either that, or their brains were the same size as ours, but far less efficient.
Whether this means Neandertal had greater cognitive capacity, or sapiens brain is more efficient, isn't clear to me.
Only because we expect a far lesser fraction of societal productivity to be spent on them.
I don't know if anyone's run the numbers for the pyramids but European castles and cathedrals took a massive fraction of their area's productivity to create compared to modern civil engineering products.
Recreating the pyramids would only be "big" because modern society doesn't spend big on vanity projects like that anymore. With modern tech we could build the same pyramids much cheaper or many more pyramids for the same money.
Prime movers activate transports, lifts, and pumps. Energy and process controls yield more and more uniform or tuned materials. R&D is a phenomenally expensive, but cumulative, process yielding large returns with time.
Precision measurement, coordination, communication, logistics, mamagement, modelling, quality control, and other advances are all based on that initial bolus of energy provided when we realised we could dig and pump up ancient burnable biomass.
Ancient technology was very often no less innovative, only vastly more constrained.
I'd known that most in Slavic means "bridge" dating back to the destruction of the famed Stari Most ("Old Bridge") in Mostar (named for the bridge, or its keepers), Bosnia and Herzegovina, in November 1993 during the Croat–Bosniak War.[1] The bridge was rebuilt in 2004.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stari_Most
A related English word is mast:
> "long pole on a ship, secured as the lower end to the keel, to support the yards, sails, and rigging in general," Old English mæst, from Proto-Germanic masta (source also of Old Norse mastr, Middle Dutch maste, Dutch, Danish mast, German Mast), from PIE mazdo- "a pole, rod" (source also of Latin malus "mast," Old Irish matan "club," Irish maide "a stick," Old Church Slavonic mostu "bridge").
https://www.etymonline.com/word/mast
This is also probably the source for Mosul, the city in present-day Iraq, from the Arabic al-Mawsul, literally "the joined," refering to the bridge there.
https://www.etymonline.com/word/Mosul
Bridge itself comes from proto-Germanic brugjo, "log, beam".
https://www.etymonline.com/word/bridge
The French pont is from Latin pons, bridge, earlier "connecting gallery, walkway".
https://www.etymonline.com/word/pons
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1. Also called Mostar Bridge, which since the city was named for the bridge-keepers, is a double and self-referential toponym: bridge-keeper-city bridge.
They may have also taken advantage of fair weather and seasonal changes. During the dry season, the river would be lower and easier to work with.
The posts are small compared to modern piles so they will not be overly buoyant. Modern piles are core structural components that are used instead of a caisson so they are quite big.
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponte_di_Tiberio_(Rimini)
Also relevant: Hardcore History's "Thor Angels" episode has some great insights over the post-roman life in Europe.
Also, I'd love to know how the bridge was designed. How did they figure out the shapes of the supporting structure, or location of the piers? Etc. We have this knowledge systematized today, but we use mathematics in a form that was developed much later than those bridges.
Also, often builders would start with scale models, and then exaggerate proportions - that doesn’t require sophisticated math. Just do the modeling “analog”!
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viaduc_de_la_Roizonne
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pont_des_Pierres#/media/Fichie...
Depends on the site, probably.
Driving the first piles had to have been a tough job. Still, Caesar's legions did it to cross the Rhine in 55 BC. So pile-driving in water was being done a long time ago.
Still it seems that video makes it look far simpler that it truly was. Just the carting of the stone from quarry to the job site had to be an immense undertaking
In lecture [0] the professor mentions as an aside:
> And what is interesting, if you take out the childhood mortality, the Victorian person between 1850 and 1880 lived slightly longer, if he was a male, than you do today
That's well after the middle ages, but still also well before modern medicine and technology, such as good sanitation and water systems.
[0] https://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and-events/return-of-the-... (has the full text to search for the context of the quote)
If there's no treatment, it keeps moving in.
https://www.infoplease.com/us/health-statistics/life-expecta...
And also, the average life expectancy at birth is a lot lower than the age an adult can expect to live to. People got old in the middle ages, it was just not as common, but probably more common for the aristocracy.
like to have other people work on something that improves society.
And bridges were infinitely more useful than fancy castles, for example.
i.e. once the water is out of the enclosure, you have a surface that is likely to be soft wet mud or sand. Surely you want to scoop some out, dig down and lay some big blocks of stone under the river bed level?
Or maybe that happens, but was just not shown. Or maybe, once you start building up, the sheer weight pushes the whole column down until it settles.
> In 1496 the third arch (counting from the Old Town side) broke down after one of the pillars lowered, being undermined by the water (repairs were finished in 1503).
So that suggests there were no, or too little, defences against washout of the foundations originally.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medieval_bridges_in_Fr...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medieval_stone_bridges...
since antiquity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_bridge
Stonemasons were heavily involved in medieval diplomacy, since everybody in power needed them to build or repair fortresses. They could travel freely between kingdoms that were at war with each other and exchange messages between the respective rulers.
Perhaps a comparable example would be an executive with a technical background: Jim Keller has highly sought-after skills desired by chip makers.
What's clear is that knowledge transfer (from region to region and from generation to generation) was facilitated by traveling apprentices, a tradition that still lives on and (I believe) is documented to go back to that time. Their profession wouldn't be bridge builder but merely some contributing role (with the occasional exception of whatever the period-correct term for architect or project manager would be), but of all the masons involved, you'd have some whose learning circuit involved a bridge, of the woodworkers you'd have some who dabbled in cranes before and so on. But was that usually sufficient or was there also a pattern of on-demand traveling leadership?
edit: post was lingering in the input form for some hours, some good answers already there!
For instance, the first layer of stones across the arches builds up from one side, over the top, and down the other, rather than up from both sides to meet in the top with keystones.
Informal learning, at places (eg museums) and on the web (education and outreach sites), is a recognized and institutionalized part of public education and outreach. And when something, like this gif, catches public attention, related resources will be linked. A little bit. In an unprepared, ad hoc, shallow, and unfunded kind of way.
A "teachable moment" is an transient opportunity to offer insight. And unplanned opportunity, but one a teacher trains and prepares for.
With viral content reaching so many, are we missing an opportunity by not being organized to exploit them as teachable moments? To rapidly and reactively link related content? History, transport, economics, construction. Might not a spike of viral be broadened, by better facilitating people following up on whatever aspect of the spike tickled their interest?
The compressed timescale makes things harder. But also easier - coping with the severe content-creation bottleneck of copyright is easier in a transient context.
How might we explore this space? Perhaps strengthen the existing "here's something related and interesting" pattern by aggregating and propagating such? A tweet "here are some links from HN", and an HN comment "here are some links from the twitter discussion"? Those are variously suboptimal, so what else?
It's also unclear how the piledriver gets re-positioned for each pile. It does not look readily movable.
https://www.1st-art-gallery.com/Maximilien-Luce/The-Pile-Dri...
Similarly, in San Francisco, many people live in 100 year old houses. It's not like we discovered better "must have" ways of building houses that made the old ones obsolete.
I honestly think things like the Linux kernel (going on 25 years) and LLVM (going on nearly 20 years) will still be around in 100 or 500 years, and basically nobody will have the time or a reason to rebuild them. Kind of like the PC BIOS is still around.
People won't really be working much in those areas, but rather on top. Just like we kind of build "on top" of houses now. It's infrastructure that we can use to make progress in other areas. It reminds me of "How Buildings Learn" by Stewart Brand.
Not any more. The BIOS has been replaced with UEFI on most new machines for about a decade now.
Still I bet the BIOS will still be around in many places. What about QEMU? Does it present a machine that contains a BIOS?
A google search turns this up: http://funwithbits.net/blog/dissecting-the-rom-bios-shipped-...
Which means that OSes still have BIOS support.
It's not my area of expertise, but it seems like turtles all the way down.
BIOS may not have been the best example, but Linux itself or Minix may be a good one. If 100 years from now there's a new dominant OS, there's probably going to still be UEFI with some legacy operating system booting it up ... Or something emulating UEFI, etc.
A modern house would have a tiny fraction of the energy demanded by 1920s SF tract housing, and 100% less interior mold.
With any historical claims, we should have access to the source to be able to confirm.
On the wiki page that was posted we read:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bridge
"Throughout its history, Charles Bridge has suffered several disasters and witnessed many historic events. Czech legend has it that construction began on Charles Bridge at 5:31am on 9 July 1357 with the first stone being laid by Charles IV himself. This exact time was very important to the Holy Roman Emperor because he was a strong believer in numerology and felt that this specific time, which formed a palindrome (1357 9, 7 5:31), was a numerical bridge, and would imbue Charles Bridge with additional strength.[4]"
Where 4 is:
"Frucht, Richard (2005). Eastern Europe : an introduction to the people, lands, and culture. 1. Santa Barbara, CA: ABC-CLIO. pp. 251. ISBN 9781576078013."
https://archive.org/details/easterneuropeint0000unse/page/25...
When you search that book on archive.org though, there are no references to "1357", "5:31", "numerology". There is a single reference to "numerical" but this relates to 1944.
So we have a paragraph in wiki, that has some very specific information, that it claims is from a book that doesn't seem to contain that info.
This is to say that 'we' don't know anything about this bridge - the sources do not check out.
I was hoping to get a little further than this. I wanted to track the primary or secondary source for this claim about the bridge build date. But I couldn't even get that far.
What should one conclude, when the detailed information being provided does not check (or should that 'Czech') out?
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlův_most
Basically, it is just a hypothesis by some astronomist. Contemporary chronicler recorded just the year that the construction was started
"Charles BridgeAmong the best-known architectural features of Prague is Charles Bridge (Karl¿v most). Known as PragueBridge until 1870, it spans the Vltava River and the Kampa Island between the Lesser Town and the OldTown. It is one of the oldest stone bridges in Europe and the second oldest in the republic (the oldest inPísek, Bohemia, was built in the thirteenth century).The first bridge crossing the Vltava in Prague was wooden anddated from the tenth century. The Judith stone bridge, built 1158–1160, spanned the river until a disastrous floodwashed it away in 1342. Charles IV commissioned Petr Parlérˇ to erect a new bridge; being somewhat superstitious,the king broke ground for the bridge in 1357 on 9 July at 5:31 A.M., thus creating a date and time that, if given com-pletely in numbers, is a perfect palindrome: 1–3–5–7–9–7–5–3–1.
The sandstone bridge, stretching 516 meters with sixteen arches, was completed in 1402.Thirty statues adorn thebridge (the originals for most are in the Lapidarium of the National Museum). In 1683 Charles Bridge received itsfirst baroque sculpture, that of St. John Nepomuk, the work of Matthias Rauchmüller and Jan Brokoff. The bronzerelief at the base of the statue depicts the false legend that Jan Nepomuk would not tell Václav IV the secrets of thequeen’s confession, so Václav IV had him cast into the Vltava from the bridge (a bronze cross in the bridge parapetmarks the alleged spot). Other baroque masters who sculpted works for the bridge included Ferdinand MaximiliánBrokoff, Michal Josef Brokoff, and Matyá≥Bernard Braun. In the classical era, Josef Max, Emanuel Max, and otherssculpted several statues. Karel Dvorˇák completed the most recent statue, that of the missionaries Cyril and Method-ius, in 1938.
On the Lesser Town side of the bridge are two towers.The first is a remnant of the Judith Bridge that was rebuiltin 1591. The taller Gothic tower was completed in 1464, and a Gothic gateway links the two towers. On the OldTown side of the bridge stands a single Gothic tower decorated with saints, the builders, and skillfully executed rep-resentations of Charles IV and his son,Václav IV. Also embellishing the tower are the coats of arms of the Bohemiankingdom.The roof is the design of Josef Mocker from the late nineteenth century. A portion of the Old Town Towerfacade and the bridge was damaged during a Swedish bombardment in 1648."
Ok - so now, I can see where the wiki claim is from. But, where is this source in the history book from?
My problem is that this is presented as true, but I want to know where the sources are. The book "EASTERN EUROPE" by RICHARD FRUCHT, was written in 2005. Obviously we are not dealing with a primary or secondary source. But what is the source Frucht is using? Is it just a story Frucht or someone else made up? We don't know.
So, your reading is that its a hyposthesis by some astronomer. And that someone chronicled the year construction started.
If you are able to provide sources for those, that would be interesting!
Cheers
https://www.academia.edu/3093773/Založení_Karlova_mostu_a_ko...
(alert: scanned and turned 90 degrees, my neck hurts)
On page 202 it describes founding of the bridge. The author puts it in context of gathering the remnants of St. Vitus (that Charles was obsessed about and his statue is present on one of towers at the end of the bridge) and highlights that the conjunction (opposition) of Saturn and the Sun happened on 1357, 9th day of 7th month.
He further investigates whether the way Charles or people of his age would write the date is the same as ours and concludes that it is likely - arab numerals, year, day, month then time, 60-minute hours are all documented in his court. Founding of the bridge would have to include a mass so it could not take place in the afternoon, which 5:31 AM isn't. Indeed different ways of expressing time used at the time are all consistent with that - except the "old bohemian" way to express time because that would be before sunrise.
If they did express it the same way as we do then at 5:31 AM the constellation of Lion (symbol of Czech kings) was in ascendent (just above horizon, important astrological place).
Additionally, a sign (which was dated to 1640 but could have been a replacement of an older one) on one of the towers at the end of the bridge contains a palindrome poem (in Latin).
Another reason why it could be true comes for the author from the fact that Charles and his people would have known and read Dante Alighieri's Vita nuova where similar numerological symmetry plays a major role. And the Prague Astronomical Clock contains a completely extra gear that serves no purpose but the counts of its tooth is also a palindromatic sequence.
This smells like horse manure, not just because it's unlikely anyone measured time that precisely in 1357, but also the Y/D/M date notation looks distinctively American.
Not that this makes the claim any more believable.
http://medievalnews.blogspot.com/2010/01/eggs-not-used-to-bu...
Wow. That's a cool project to show how the alien's were not necessarily needed. I've seen attempts at this for the construction of pyramids, but those only really show how moving large stones with human motors were possible.
Secrets of the Castle, BBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNPnBVHSeZc
https://the-augustus.com/2018/11/29/how-did-caesar-cross-the...
Playing right into the stereotype; they didn't even start with a standard unit.
I don't understand it. the hammer seems to ram down wooden pillar at the same location.
I think for it to work, the hammer needs to move around the wooden rail .
https://imgur.com/0lpS9k3Among others, I'm quite certain that it was also shared by former NASA astronaut Mike Massimo [0] who has quite a few followers on Twitter [1]. (More people might know him from a (few?) cameo appearances in Big Bang theory though.)
It is easy to have seen this on Twitter by now.
And to be honest, I'm not surprised that it beats the video - it communicates the exact same information, and the same sense of awe as the original video, but in a much more time-efficient manner. Watching the original now, I can't shake the feeling of how boringly slow it is.
Also, in a world where leaders lived and died based on the approval of a centralized papal authority, it's just good politics to be known as "that city that's constantly been building that huge cathedral".
[0] https://theprepared.org/features/2019/4/28/building-a-cathed...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagrada_Família
Washington National Cathedral was completed over 83 years, 1907--1990.
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† Roughly. Using GNU units: 45 years / 3 minutes = 7889231.5
Frankly maybe I'm old school but I found the Youtube version a lot more palatable, I could understand what was going on much butter, take a few seconds to understand the how the contraptions worked. When I watch one of these shortened ultra-edited versions I feel like I'm holding by breath.
Russian Ark (2002) (Russian: Русский ковчег) is a single 96-minute steadicam shot, and it has over 2,000 actors and three orchestras in it. It was recorded directly to a hard drive carried behind the camera operator, which could hold 100 minutes.
Back then, there were no such studio cameras to continuously record to film reels over a certain length.
is this hyperbole? Genuinely asking.
- Six and a half minutes?
- Three or four, anyway
In the first two minutes there were multiple shots of over 10 seconds.
And at the 0:14:44 mark there is a 24 second shot.
Sorry for being probably wrong on the exactness of the figures, I thought the background idea was important, that pre-2000 movies were slower, and there has been an acceleration to the point of ridicule, and it is probable that directors dialled down from the extremely-fast-paced style because it didn’t find its audience. Yes, more recent movies didn’t go faster than that one, it was really a style that had its apogee in that movie.
I think this falls apart even more when you compare Ghost Protocol to the most recent MI film, Fallout, which is the highest rated and grossing MI movie in the series. Just from an artistic perspective, it's shot very differently than Ghost Protocol.
Spot the bit well into the film where the guy nearly drops the book, you can feel the oncoming-but-narrowly-averted pain.
Seems like hyperbole. I just looked at Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol (aka Mission Impossible IV).
In the first two minutes there were multiple shots of over 10 seconds.
And at the 0:14:44 mark there is a 24 second shot.
Most of us are used to faster paced information delivery, and we still go back to what we missed or want to check more in detail.
That’s what we deal with day in day out, and I don’t think we end up with an understanding that is shallower than when stopping at each frame for 5 seconds.
I find it sad it becomes some “kids these days” rant material when it’s just a matter of preferred watching pace.
Of course time-lapses and stuff like that are intentionally sped up, but for something like an instructional video, it's going to be challenging to take real meaning from it.
In general it seems that people want to see some "neat" thing, click Like, and move onto the next interesting thing. For me, I don't relate. I like to dive into my interests and invest some real time into them. Otherwise my perception of the world and the things around me is super shallow. In fact, when I want information, I usually want text and images, not video/audio.
Further, I don't find it very rewarding to watch those sort of "clickbait" clips. I understand it can be satisfying in the short term, but I find almost zero need for this type of entertainment. I sense the primal nature of it and find it unappealing. I also feel that those primal "entertainment" desires are being exploited for clicks/likes/advertising, and I prefer to be compensated by greater value than relatively-shallow time-wasting if I am being exploited :)
Like others, I saw the shorter animation, via Mastodon.
I assumed there was a source video but couldn't find one after an hour or so searching "medieval bridge building", "medieval bridge construction", etc., particularly as the keywords are dominated by gameplay animations.
There are several somewhat related videos on castle construction, employing some of the methods employed on Karlův most, e.g.:
How were castles built / constructed in the medieval period? https://youtube.com/watch?v=pu3O70GeQFY (~15 min)
Building A Medieval Castle Using Authentic Tools | Secrets Of The Castle | Timeline https://youtube.com/watch?v=ydoRAbpWfCU (~1h)
The first relies heavily on contemporary experience from Guédelon Castle, "an experimental archaeology project aimed at recreating a 13th-century castle and its environment using period technique, dress, and material."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guédelon_Castle
There are numerous videos of contemporary methods, e.g., Grady Engineering's dewatering explainer, showing the modern adaptaions of coffer dam / cassion construction illustrated in the submitted piece (https://youtube.com/watch?v=URC125wpMS4), various pre-cast span methods (https://youtube.com/watch?v=QDotEB6Uh9s https://youtube.com/watch?v=S3Kf9e6JgF4). China especially has developed rapid (https://youtube.com/watch?v=zvuufBqp0_4) and extreme (https://youtube.com/watch?v=2jj7gH3569M) span construction to an art form.
But rigorous videos detailing ancient construction, not so much.
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