Federal Agents Say They Thwarted a Miltia Plot to Kidnap Michigan
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Headline probably meant to say, "Federal Agents Say They Thwarted a Miltia Plot to Kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer", or something like that. You can leave off the last two words, but if you leave off the last three, you've definitely lost something.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/antifa-starting-fires-oreg...
There have been a number of people arrested for arson with regard to brush fires. Google turned up this for me https://nypost.com/2020/09/20/six-accused-of-starting-oregon...
I think it would be premature to conclusively say what the motive of every case of the wanton destruction of our forests may be. However, I’m very impressed that the oracles at snopes were able to divine the motives of these actors prior to arrests, trials or even public statements. I bet they clean up at the lottery!
I'm not going to try do the impossible and prove a negative when you're the one that made the initial allegation I'm still looking for substantiation for.
That doesn't sound like an actual plot to take actual specific criminal actions against a specific person. It sounds like something one guy would say to another in a heated conversation. I suspect this entire case will fall apart by the time it goes to trial like all these other fake "domestic terrorism" entrapment cases the FBI likes to trot out for political purposes. The only charge that sticks will be some process crime involving firearm permits.
So while the IED could be seen as a bunch of rednecks having a great time on a Friday night, the surveillance is I think another story.
There were embedded agents in the group as well as apparently recordings, so we'll have to see what the evidence the government has.
I wonder how a couple of red necks even knew where her vacation home was, and which one of them suggested going there and looking at it from a distance. I suspect the guy whose job it was to get convictions under his belt told them where it was and that they should go there. Another thing we will hopefully find out at trial.
Thinking deeply and critically about what we read in the news is a very good skill to have, but reflexively dismissing it because you don’t want it to be true ain’t it, chief.
> Jerry Drake Varnell, who allegedly followed far-right anti-government groups and told the FBI he “wanted to start the next revolution,” is “a paranoid schizophrenic
> He has no job, no money, no vehicle, and no driver’s license, due to the fact that he is schizophrenic and we; his parents do everything we can possible to keep him safe and functional. The mental health system has consistently failed us
> He has attended college and just enrolled in welding school. His medications allow him to be somewhat functional but he will never be completely functional in life
The FBI is a despicable political actor. They set up muslims during the war on terror in the same way. Never once did they catch a real terrorist plot. It was all political theater.
You're right, its not so much about critical thinking as it is pattern recognition.
United on which side though? I mean, can he say without a doubt, there are no cops in Proud Boys or these militias?
Well, perhaps they tend not to be in non-state-run organized militias; they tend to be part of the universal militia as defined in law, and perhaps somewhat more frequently than the population in general are part of the state-organized portion of the militia (National Guard or formal state militia [e.g., the California State Guard]).
But, actually, there's quite a lot of recent information about right-wing non-government militia groups infiltrating law enforcement significantly, so its quite possibly the case that they are also more likely than the general population to be involved in that kind of militia.
On the other hand, people that fantasize about the privilege do tend to try to join the police, and may not leave the other organizations they joined previously when they succeed.
There. I fixed it for you.
Consider that what's actually scary is the increasing number of educated people who believe it is possible to engineer a world free of such faults.