Tesla is not even considered in the top half of the contenders. They are the best at hyping it up though.
I’m open to being convinced that I’m not correct here, but it’s really difficult for me to see how Tesla is anything but 1000x ahead of everybody else.
It reminds me of people who build great models on Jupyter Notebook, but have no clue how about the data engineering that goes into serving those models (90% of the work).
Do you own a Tesla? We previously had a car with ACC/ALC and I don’t find it to be even close to the same thing, but that’s me.
Comma.Ai’s device is great. It’s better than anything anybody else (Waymo/Cruise included) has put out there.
Soon as it was in 2016 [1], 2018 [2] in Feb 2019 [3], Mar 2020 [4], or July 2020 [5]?
They have been hyping this up for years, why should I still believe those claims that it will soon be here™? Not only that but they have already advertised and sold "full self-driving" for people that can't use it yet, no beta, no alpha, just doesn't exist and is a paid feature. How far is this from fraud?
[1] https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/19/watch-a-fully-self-driving...
[2] https://cleantechnica.com/2018/11/03/hiding-between-two-anno...
[3] https://electrek.co/2019/02/28/automatic-driving-city-stop-s...
[4] https://electrek.co/2020/03/04/tesla-self-driving-features-m...
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-model-s-model-x-aut...
Yes you can. At least my ap1.5 s70d does a fair job on quite a lot of roads and I expect that ap2 is better.
> And AFAIK Tesla still can't recognize stopped vehicles on the highway and has no public plan to fix that.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? I do have a Tesla (without full self-driving) and it comes to a complete stop when cars in front of me stop on the highway.
One example of a stopped vehicle: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2019-09-03/tesla-was-...
https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-autopilot-why-crash-radar/
> “ Just before the crash, a large vehicle — a sport utility vehicle or pickup truck — changed lanes in front of him, the driver told the NTSB.”
And how does Waymo handle these scenarios?
The radar returns on stationary objects are discarded AFAIK because of poor radar resolution leading to inability to precisely locate objects both horizontally and vertically, leading to roadside and overhead signs being mistaken for cars.
Common auto radars have limited vertical discrimination, and this is partly intrinsic due to radar wavelengths.
To throw you a bone, I do think that the names of the software lead people to believe that it's something more than what it is. Full self-driving is going to do things like swerve to avoid an obstacle in the middle of the road and it probably doesn't do that right now. But if we go back to the original post, the discussion was about comparisons to Waymo and Cruise. I'm not sure I trust their "more advanced systems" to do that either, and on top of that they haven't made a single production car that works in Erie, Pennsylvania and drives in the snow, changes lanes automatically, and navigates on and off ramps.
Tesla is making progress toward general self-driving, which is far and away more valuable in my opinion. Even if that progress is incremental. I look at it as more of a safety feature and something to make driving on the highway much easier.
If we want to take this a step further, I'm actually not a fan of self-driving cars because it makes it too easy to drive everywhere, and I view driving as a problem. We should be walking.
Hoping the AP rewrite closes some of the gap... we will see!