Could be mistrust about the anonymity properties of the system, but my guess is that they don't want too many officers to be confirmed as contacts, and thus be forced to self-isolate.
If you don't look at the problem, there is no problem!
If you don't look at the problem, there is no problem!
Assuming people will follow proper protocols, whether they are police officers or not, is not a good plan.
It's much more important, because much more significant both in term of raw numbers and in term of risk of non compliance, to ensure that the general public follows the same: I was at the supermarket yesterday and the app told me that no less than 5 positive people were inside... with no consequences.
This is not supported by evidence. In other words, the world doesn't function the way we wish it would.
What's your evidence? Because police do have procedures that are internally enforced whereas the general public does not and is not exactly keen on rules (as we've seen)
Sounds like some people are criticising for the sake of it because this is the Police...
(Not saying uk police are perfect but something like the this in the linked article would be less likely here)
I didn't take that as meaning a specific police force, but rather, police in general. I was specifically responding to mytaylorrsrich's comment that people are reacting negatively to the police just because they are police, whereas my point was that they were believing that the police always held themselves to a higher standard just because they were police. I'm not convinced that is the case, and this link is a point of evidence to that effect.
As also repeated the police has extra security constraints, which must be balanced with any benefits the tracking app bring. Clearly they think that allowing a third party app which goal is real-time tracking, on police phones has more downsides than upsides.
I don't know anything about American police and I don't care. This is not the topic of the discussion, which is about an UK tracking app and UK police forces.
I do think that shooting this advice against installing the app (on police phones) and my comments down is largely being obtuse because it's the police or because they don't want to acknowledge the specificities of police work.
Western countries notably have not.
Now we just have hard choices.
In reality the UK probably wouldn't even be able to manage that - for example, we have a constant stream of lorry drivers coming in from locations throughout Europe to destinations throughout the UK, many of them with absolutely vital goods, and that's a great way to spread Covid from country to country. Somewhere like the US would stand even less chance.
Haven’t heard of it as a source of transmission. Truck drivers generally don’t get off their shift and then go sing karaoke.
And I live now in Quebec, which got local transmission down to almost nothing. But then they opened bars for three months. I think if they had kept them closed a month longer and told the pop “get to zero and we can have a normal winter” we could have done it. Now we’re surging again.
Flatten the curve started as a Twitter meme and only then spread to governments. I don’t think govts wanted to eliminate, but my point is I wish those who were in the forefront had sent a different message. I was looking at this from mid feb, before western governments were generally sending any message at all.
Containing the virus is the same, preventing ongoing community infections, etc.. Different words for the same overarching activity.
Maybe "containing" would have been a better description, arguably it wouldn't have allowed laxities to be introduced for economic reasons without it being more apparent; which goes against UK governments playbook it seems.
Did any countries public service messaging refer to "containing"?
Just look at any article when the idea of “flattening the curve” entered the news, e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/article/flatten-curve-coronavirus.ht...
Drew Harris, a population health analyst at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia that is cited in this NYTimes article, has said:
>Important to remember that #Covid-19 epidemic control measures may only delay cases, not prevent.
and
>Without a vaccine, eventually everyone is likely to be exposed to the virus. Some won't get sick, some will have mild illness, some severe, and a few will die. The goal is to put this off for as long as possible so we have time to prepare and spread out the surge of cases.
Saturday I saw a hospital worker (role unknown) with his mask in his hand. Not only that, but he was heading into the bathroom--a place you should be extra cautious about.
Other than that I have seen very good compliance by all medically trained people in healthcare facilities, sloppy compliance by those without medical training (receptionists etc.) I rather suspect he was not actually a medical worker despite being in the treatment area.