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Since you mention IntelliJ, is it possible that the corporations you have worked in have been heavy on Java?

JDEE (http://jdee.sourceforge.net/) exists, but even I give up on Emacs when I want to write a lot of Java (and I use Emacs for literally everything else, including JS).

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JS development in IntelliJ/WebStorm is an amazing experience. The refactoring features alone make it easy to write code without worrying about details like "where does the file go" or "what should I name this". You can get the code working and rename / move code with a single click later on, knowing the refactor will propagate through the app.

The intellisense is amazing too. Start typing a method name and you see arguments with type annotations. it's overkill for scripting, but working on tangled legacy code it's very helpful.

I've heard people say that, but what I find is that they pick shitty names and never refactor. I'm on a different team now. Most of us use vim.

Yeah, but then when someone tells you in code review to pick a less shitty variable name, it still takes one click.

Sadly, when you get a reputation for giving that feedback, people stop asking you to review.

Damn. You must work on a shitty team.

I'm on a different team now.

I don't do a lot of java development but https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-java works really well for me.

I wouldn’t write Java in an editor that wasn’t hosted in the JVM. The advantages are simply too great. On the other hand that’s a very Lispy attitude so Emacs still influences me. And Eclipse at least has tolerable Emacs style bindings available. Still it sucks how much more of a PITA it is to create an Eclipse plug-in than to just write a page or two of elisp.

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