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"乾" in Simplified refers to only one of the 8 trigrams, as is used in the word "乾坤"

"乾" in Traditional can mean either the above OR the Simplified "干" (dry)

"干" also exists in Traditional but only means "stem" not "dry"

However, GP's point about translating on the fly is possible. You don't need a very advanced algorithm to translate simplified<->traditional almost perfectly. Unless you're translating poetry they can almost always be disambiguated by the nearby characters very well.

Note though that there are lots of actual word differences in mainland Mandarin and Taiwanese Mandarin. It's not difficult for one to read the other and maybe occasionally asking a question or two but it's nice for every human to have materials available in their native dialect and vocabulary. Much like you probably appreciate that your system offers both UK English and US English and doesn't force you to use the "other" one from what you're used to.

Taiwanese Mandarin is really not that different from PRC Mandarin. In fact most college-educated mainland speakers can read works written in traditional characters just fine although I'm not sure on the Taiwanese side for simplified characters. In fact I think a substantial proportion (most?) of Chinese Wikipedia readers just don't bother with changing the character set either way and are fine with traditional/simplified character switches throughout the article (that's certainly the way I read it).

My point was really not to get too deep into the pedantry of it, but simply that Taiwan and China do share the same written language with a different character set because you can generally replace the characters without substantial grammatical or vocabulary changes. It's not in the same ballpark as equivocating Spanish, Catalan, Languedoc, and French. There are different vocabulary variations like saying 哪兒 Nǎ'er and 哪裡 Nǎlǐ (both mean "where?"), but you can also find variations between Brit and American English vocabulary. IMO, the Trad/Simplified difference is closer akin to American English deciding to drop a lot of U's in words like "colour."

My point was that you could say they share the same written language so it makes very much sense to have one ZH-language Wikipedia, and use machine conversion to present it in the character set preferred by the reader (as it does currently). And, that there is plenty of good reasons for Taiwan to have its own Wikimedia organization because there are non-ZH languages like Min Nan that deserve to be represented.

Edit for sake of illustration. Take the sentence "I like this cat." It's read "Wǒ xǐhuān zhè zhī māo" no matter if you're reading it in Traditional or Simplified characters. There may be some pronunciation differences North v South that is above my level so far, but the characters (notably 只 that you mentioned) are the same meaning and sound.

我喜歡這隻貓

我喜欢这只猫

I strongly disagree. The simplified/traditional split is not the first time new character sets have been introduced. This has happened many times throughout the history of written Chinese. E.g. ever wonder why things that have to do with body parts and organs have a moon radical associated with them? That's because of a conflation of two separate radicals (moon radical and meat radical) that were distinct in Qin Dynasty seal script. And yet this doesn't mean that our Classical Chinese works are all of a sudden written in a different language when written in modern standard script or Han Dynasty clerical script or even seal script (which in turn is definitely _not_ the original script that these works were written in).

Moreover the vast vast majority of differences between simplified and traditional Chinese characters are one-to-one mappings between different characters. While simplified Chinese characters sometimes map multiple traditional Chinese characters to a single simplified one, the reverse direction also happens! See e.g. 乾 which is split into 干 and 乾 depending on meaning and pronunciation.

> Those are characters with entirely different meanings and often different pronunciations in various forms of Chinese.

The fact that a single character can have different pronunciations and different meanings which can coincide or not among different varieties of Chinese has endured for as long as we've had written records of non-standard Chinese varieties. This is not something new with simplified characters.

At a higher level, there has been a split in Chinese between officially sanctioned characters and non-standard variant characters since the first unification of characters under the Qin dynasty (which characters are sanctioned has changed over time). Traditional Chinese and simplified Chinese characters are simply changes in which characters receive official sanction.

Basically at the end of the day the simplified/traditional split is nothing new in Chinese, it's happened many times before and it's very easy to learn one if one knows the other.

The mapping is not isometric in either direction. There are simplified characters that collide when mapped to traditional and vice versa. In practice this isn't a problem though, because despite what many people think, each Chinese word is not necessarily one character. It is possible to use the context from surrounding characters to accurately map them back and forth. I'm sure it's not perfect, but for the general case it works. It's not a hypothetical either, Wikipedia does this currently.

1. Many Mainland Chinese people have the view that Taiwan is illegally occupied ever since the KMT fled there at the end of the civil war. It's as if the Confederates fled to Puerto Rico or Hawaii, still exist to this day, and claim to be the legitimate ruler of all of the US.

Although nowadays fewer people care about this, since China has surpassed Taiwan economically. But it's still a significant portion who cares. So many, that if the CCP lets Taiwan go, CCP's legitimacy will be called into question, and many people will revolt. If it's up to these people, China would have launched an invasion a decade ago.

2. Geographically, Taiwan is a military significant piece of land. The US can set up base there and blockade all China's naval traffic. China wants to prevent this.

Worth noting that the PRC has never controlled Taiwan.

Much in the same way they pressure other countries to ignore the abuses of Uighurs and Tibetans.

It was a lot easier to get chaoter status when wikimedia taiwan did it than it is currently.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliate...

Generally speaking it was really easy to become a chapter in the old days, but now you have to be a really big org to get chapter status. So newer things are less likely to be chapters

So, definitely opinion. ;)

That's an interesting thought. What if there were an optional drop-down menu that allowed down-voters to provide canned feedback?

Either way, I think you'd enjoy the discussion more if you worried less about voting. Unless you're selling something, the popularity of the sentiment you're expressing isn't especially relevant.