If the situation doesn't deescalate quickly, we might see a war soon and if push comes to shove, the US could be in the middle of it.
There is no official border between these 2 "countries". They both officially claim they own the the other.
And China has made it plain that, as long as Taiwan is not pursuing independence, everything can be made as usual. That's backed by many popular demand from the ordinary people.
It's like US wont allow USSR to deploy nukes in Cuba. As long as you Cuba dont do that, US are OK with the communism on the island. Otherwise, sorry, you are risking the whole life for this whatever ideology you are pursuing.
I'm not even certain that the US could land a force in the area, given China's investment in defensive missile installations.
The kind of withdrawal I described would likely be accompanied by the expulsion of all non-immigrant Chinese nationals, a military build-up in friendly regional territories, and deployments in anticipation of blockading Chinese energy imports.
The rest of the world will serve to feed 9-dash mainland China with raw materials (Africa) and loan repayments (Belt and Road). There is none of the "social justice" of Western imperialism, no interest in exporting Chinese values or ideology - there is only China.
And they were until Xi made himself dictator for life. Under Xi it seems like the CCP has become unecessarily less rational and more insecure.
It's a poor strategy for power projection, but theoretically it's a comparatively economical method of negating America's capacity to power project in the region.
Here's a National Interest article on the dialogue around it: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/aircraft-carriers-vs-...
https://abc7ny.com/nypd-spying-baimadajie-angwang-tibetan-of... (caution playing video)
In a way they did get to them but not in the way you imply.
Citation needed, please. A cop is not a politician.
Off the top of my head, there's:
Shaoquett Moselmane, Australian state politician. Recently had her home raided by the Australian Federal Police in relation to Chinese espionage (details are scant, due to the ongoing investigation)
Sam Dastyari, Australian federal politician. Resigned due to donations from Chinese entities
Jian Yang, NZ member of parliament. Former member of the CCP and civilian member of the PLA.
The prime minister of Singapore famously called the CIA out on it: https://mothership.sg/2017/02/cias-failed-attempt-to-bribe-l...
Are you willing to sacrifice your life for the freedom of Tibet? I am not
Also they hadn't been through nearly 30 years of constant war before hand. A nation can get weary from war.
And it took world wars - here we are talking about internal china problem which is harder sell. China invading someone US cares about - like Japan may convince the US public to pay the nuclear butcher bill, but what they do on their own territory is not
The world would be much safer and peaceful place.
Could be safe internally, but that is utterly irrelevant to its neighbors, and the geopolitical order of a world in which the nazis weren’t crushed, the winning empires weren’t dismantled, and the US isn’t the guarantor of global trade and European security in order to combat the Soviets.
If you’re interested in geopolitics reading outside of Philip K. Dick, an accessible but satiating piece I always recommend is World Order: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20821140
It’s written by a highly respected war criminal (how many fields can say that!)
The British Empire are pretty much the "bad guys" of world history insofar as such a designation makes sense. The punitive measures they arranged after WWI were directly responsible for the rise of the Nazi party in Weimar Germany.
WWI was not WWII. There was nothing uniquely evil about the Central Powers.
All of these people didn't work towards independence by accident. There were good reasons to, depending on whose empire you lived in, the ruling group was given preferential treatment, or maybe the minorities would be penalized for using their own language. Higher education and government services would often be provided exclusively in the ruling nation's language.
>WWI was not WWII. There was nothing uniquely evil about the Central Powers.
The Armenian genocide sounds bad enough to me.
And of course these things happened even in the Entente empires, it's just easier to declare independence from an empire that just lost and can't do anything about it.
The rise of the Nazi party in Weimar Germany was a direct consequence of the punitive nature of the Treaty of Versailles.
The US has a record of wanting to be hegemon and specifically wanting to export our ideology. China, not so much outside of their borders and immediate sea lanes.
Are you just assuming they want to do so because that's what we do?
Honestly I think the best bet is we let Taiwan go nuclear. Oh, CCP says it will invade, but that's not really going to happen if they'll lose all their major cities.
China as a unified country has never been as large as it is today. They are actively taking over parts of Nepal, they have taken pieces of land from India, they invaded and took over Tibet, the are nearing genocidal strategies to eradicate any semblance of culture or different-think amongst the Uyghur and people of Inner-Mongolia (bet you haven't even heard of that suppression! They have banned the Mongolian language in schools and nomads are no longer allowed to _ride horses_ as of a few weeks ago!). Not to mention what happened in Hong Kong.
If not for India, they would have already taken over Bhutan. If not for their fighting spirit, they would have tried to take over Vietnam. They are building islands and taking over the South China sea. They are practicing debt trap diplomacy in Africa.
They are the most expansionist, imperialist regime in Modern times second only to USA. Chinese people feed us this line, that they aren't expansionist, that they aren't imperialist, that they are only inward looking. For some reason we in the West take them at their word. Look at their actions, the picture is not so rosy. As much as I hate Trump, his pressure on China has been a welcome policy shift.
Imagine if they actually had a military as active as the US, NATO, or the Russians. Where do you go from here, rhetorically?
Most Americans know literally dick-all about Chinese history and substitute a combination of Cold War and WWII history where we're the good guys and the antagonists are the bad guys.
The British did more empire building in 2-3 hundred years than the Chinese did in a millennium!
I hope it doesn't get to major atrocities to happen before the world wakes up to what China is doing.
The CCP has already committed disgusting atrocities during the cultural revolution in the 60’s but the world magically ignores that so I am pessimistic to say the least.
Your parent comment is probably supposing that all supremacist movements eventually wind up doing this. Which is not a ridiculous suggestion- a fundamental precept of supremacist movements is usually the idea that the supposedly supreme group has a right to rule, and such ideas have a history of leading to invasion & conquest.
Every country has its bigots, but suggestions that a country that just came out of hundreds of years of institutional racism from the Qing and then the British opium wars has a deliberate agenda based on race supremacy just sound like projection to me.
Confront the mirror.
Mao was giving minority cultures exemptions from the 1-child policy, subsidies, and all sorts of other stuff at a time when we were running Jim Crow.
90%+ of Han Chinese only ever see other Chinese, they do have a sort of belief that their culture is the best culture on the planet and the center of the world but so does everyone else, especially Americans. We can't say a thing.