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I'll raise you:

"It's called Rebo and it's the first bottle that cleans the planet as you drink. One Rebo drunk is one plastic bottle collected as simple as that. Rebo is a smart bottle equipped with a laser time-of-flight sensor and a Bluetooth transmitter that measures and senses the water you drink. The Rebo the app captures the information and records it into the blockchain transforming it into green credits that sponsor the collection of plastic bottles every minute."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KupJgVupEtk

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What the heck does this even mean? This is crazier than the stuff my cannabis business clients come up with.

The bottle cap has a laser sensor that measures the water level in the bottle. When you drink all the water, there is a Bluetooth chip (also in the cap) that notifies the app on your phone, which phones home and records that you drank a bottle of water into a DB (apparently a blockchain). The company then has a deal with some other company that for every bottle of Rebo you drink, it funds the collection of plastic waste collection.

I admit they chocked it full of too many buzzwords to make it sound cooler than it is, but at least the concept sort of makes sense compared to the hot air the Nikola CEO blew.

There are a ton of companies doing this "Toms shoes" model (buy one, give one) and it doesn't need to be complex. "For every bottle of water you purchase, we fund the clean up of 1000 bottles". Why bring lasers into it?

Because they couldn't figure out how to credibly add "Machine learning" or "AI" and lasers was the next buzzword on the "What's hot" list?

And the EPA would not approve mounting lasers on sharks' heads.

You can’t call and raise. You can only either call or raise. ... Sorry for being overly pedantic but as a poker player that one kinda bothers me :)

That's arguable. A reasonable case could be made for the idea that a call is a required prerequisite for a raise.

True - but in a professional setting if you say "I'll call..." then that's it you're calling. You can't tag "..and raise you..." on the end - they would not accept the raise.

I've often said:

"I see your [bet] and raise you [x]" - would that be accepted?

I suppose it depends on the house, and floor, but I think it might be fine as you're not explicitly saying "call". I always just say "raise" and put in the chips (all at once!), or say "I raise to XXX" with XXX being the total amount (call+raise), after which I can take my time counting out the chips (or put more than the total raise amount if I don't have exact change).

Saying call and then adding a raise is similar to string betting, where you first put some chips to gauge your opponents reaction, and then put in some more. That's not allowed but so many beginners do it.

It can depend on where you are playing, but you run the risk of getting called for a string bet. The way you worded it definitely makes it sound that way because of the "and" combining two actions. If it is a friendly game you are unlikely to face issue, but in a contentious game with unknown enemies, this quote would get you called for a string bet in some of the casinos I've played.

Even most friendly games I play, where the rules are VERY relaxed, do not allow "I see your X and raise you Y" string bets. This pattern is pretty firmly a relic of the past (if it ever existed outside of Hollywood).

Everywhere I've played would call that as a string bet

No that's a string bet. It's generally explicitly not allowed so you can't fish for info after saying "I see your bet....."

Some places may let you do it once, but by rule its not allowed in Casinos.

I've been in otherwise pretty friendly games where string bets were disallowed. Or at best, the first time it happened (generally by a new player), it was accepted but the table agreed not to allow anymore for anyone.

Only on TV. People in casinos can be sticklers when you verbally announce one action and then tack on another. Imagine saying something like, "I call" look for a reaction and if that person looks dejected quickly follow Up with, "and raise you $x". It is sometimes referred to as "Angle shooting"

Naw, any place reasonably serious will have a string betting rule and similar. The reason is that you could start out with "and I call your 500" then pause slightly to see if your opponent starts moving/reacting in some way that signals their likely response before deciding whether to follow up with your raise. Likewise most places have a rule that you have to count out your bet then push it all out at once, or declare the full amount clearly verbally. Even the piddling little $100 buy in tourneys I played in during the poker craze 15 years ago had these rules.

Dealers tend to just shut down anyone that plays silly games around delaying or feinting what they're going to maybe do to. I was at Acapulco Joe's one time playing the cheap limit tables with a dealer that was out of patience with this one guy that was acting like he was on national tv for the world series finals. Finally at one point when he was dickering around she just looked at him, said "he calls" took his chips and moved on lol.

It looks like it's called "Rebo". Here is a reply on one of the comments on the page.

> Hi Palps, thank you for your interest and time. We generate a green credit that is fully anonymized every time a REBO bottle is drunk and they are certified by the Gold Standard, the most reputable agency in carbon emission reduction certification. Credits are monetized through private sponsors and the funds go to Plastic Bank, an organization that pays people in underprivileged communities in developing countries to pick up plastic dispersed in the environment. We hope this helped you understand better what happens "behind the scenes" to make it possible to clean the planet as you drink with REBO

Its a pretty garbage idea of trying to take peoples sympathies for plastic waste to sell a product. Just donate to recycling non profits or research if you want to support green efforts.

rebo had a sick booth at burning man

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