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IMO the forced sale of TikTok is very worrying for American production in China; in any future escalation China will likely use that same move as a card to play.

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Haven’t they been doing that already? At least requiring companies to use data centers in country so they can siphon/spy on the data? Is that any less nefarious than a forced sale in order to operate in the country?

I’d argue at least it’s more explicit (to sell).

TikTok are already using US datacenters, and I'm willing to bet they're part of some kind of NSA program.

The issue with being forced to sell is that it's essentially economic warfare.

The fact that China is doing it does not mean it is the right thing to do.

But it does mean that the threat of China retaliating in kind is irrelevant, because that's already part of their MO.

You’re expecting Tesla or Apple to have to sell their assets on a firesale?

Requiring data centers in the country is something Americans and all nations desire. How is that an argument in your mind?

China came into the US and is operating under the rules, while the US is forcing TikTok to sell or die. This is the US seizing TikTok. What US firm has China seized?

It would be shocking if in the next round of escalations, China doesn’t respond in a way which sufficiently addresses the magnitude of Huawei, TikTok, WeChat, Tencent.

What are they gonna do? Ban Google, Facebook, et al.? Oh wait, they’ve already been banning foreign companies for decades.

Or maybe they’ll force foreign companies to give up ownership to Chinese locals? Oh wait, they’ve already been doing that for decades (see GM, Volkswagen, Toyota, etc.)

Or maybe they’ll force foreign companies to let Chinese local companies to take control of their Chinese operations? Oh wait, they’ve already been doing that for decades (see Apple iCloud, Blizzard, etc.)

They already banned US companies by the dozens. What next, force American companies to do joint ventures which the Chines parters hold a majority share? Oh that's right China has already done that.

Are you aware of the services China is already blocking?

Here’s a list: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_blocked_in_...

Why does it matter what services China blocks? Are you saying we should take cues from the great firewall?

? China already blocks american businesses

yeah if a company wants to come in and do business, china will usually force the company (especially if it has trade secrets) to create a partnership with a local firm for production, etc

So exactly like the Tiktok oracle deal? The US is taking the low road while pointing fingers.

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