octopuses*
tis mixage of greik and latin eytymologies and wyll not bey allowed
by the way is your dad thomas pynchon?
octopuses*
tis mixage of greik and latin eytymologies and wyll not bey allowed
by the way is your dad thomas pynchon?
I think the French would like to have a word!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Académie_Française
(On the other hand, rules aren't binding, so it's more like a "will of the people (if the people's will is large enough)"?)
There might be a few areas where official bodies are lagging behind usage ("postuler à" being one I have in mind), but I'd say that grammar nazis and teachers alike are actually somewhat effective IMO.
Today I learned that I used it "wrong" all my life.
We have no evidence this is true. Certainly historically we know it isn't the case, there very strong evidence surrounding how languages drift over time that exist alongside contemporary pendants later proving to have not made a difference. But we also haven't really had a society with near universal literacy before so maybe that changes the dynamic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_form_of_words_ending_in...
octopus
(ˈɒktəpəs, ɒkˈtəʊpəs)Pl. octopodes (ɒkˈtəʊpədiːz), anglicized octopuses.[mod.L. octōpus, a. Gr. ὀκτώπους, acc. ὀκτώποδ-α eight-footed, f. ὀκτώ eight + πούς, πόδ- foot.]
octopus
A genus of cephalopod molluscs, characterized by eight `arms' surrounding the mouth and provided with suckers; an individual of this genus (esp. one of the larger and more formidable species).
1758: Baker in Phil. Trans. L. 778 “The Polypus, particularly so called, the Octopus, Preke, or Pour-contrel.”
1835: Kirby Hab. & Inst. Anim. I. x. 308 “The body of the octopus is small, it has legs sometimes a foot and a half in length, with about two hundred and forty suckers on each leg.”
1880: Browning Pietro of Abano 401 “Help! The old magician clings like an octopus!”
1884: H. M. Leathes Rough Notes Nat. Hist. 46 “Saying that enormous octopuses existed on the western side of Panama, in the Pacific Ocean.”
octopus
b. fig.; usually applied to an organized power having extended ramifications and far-reaching influence, esp. harmful or destructive.
1882: Greg Misc. Ess. ii. 37 “We are the very octopus of nations.”
1893: Boston (Mass.) Jrnl. 25 Mar. 2/1 “The electric octopus. Formal organization of the New England Street Railway Company.”
1894: Westm. Gaz. 12 Mar. 2/1 “He was an administrative octopus, a cormorant of toil.”
octopus
c. attrib. and Comb.
1880: G. Meredith Tragic Com. (1881) 206 “Then they laid octopus-limbs on her.”
1894: Outing (U.S.) XXIV. 460/1 “An octopus power sought to tear the human limpet from its clinging place.”
1898: P. Manson Trop. Diseases i. 9 “A strange-looking octopus-like creature.”
a simple reply to this would be that in no dictionary 'pu' comes before 'po' :)
granted, octopodes comes under the heading of octopus, as it's plural, so it is technically after.
but following the loose nature of the quote in hand, it is also in fact true that octopi comes before octopuses, it just so happens to be attached to the full word 'octopian' - suggestive of an octopus
the greek d was actually a hard th sound iirc, Δελτα being pronounced 'thelta' as opposed to 'delta'.
hopefully that clarifies (and is actually accurate) how octopuses and octopodes are connected
(pronounced "yew-nan-i-mwa" as in French "me")
;)
Pro tip: Pizza Pepperoni (Italy vs US)
Like "Vaxen?"