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Couldn't care less about this. Just put out a paid version of Firefox that dedicates this revenue stream exclusively to continued Firefox development and I will happily pay fist fulls of money for it. Seriously, Firefox adds so much value to my life and I'd happily pay for it.

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I think the "exclusively for Firefox development" is pretty important. Mozilla is doing a lot of random things these days

>Mozilla is doing a lot of random things these days

Yeah, like paying three million to its CEO annually. That's not going into Firefox development alright.

The one who no longer works there? And how do you think they would build and manage a development team without executives?

>The one who no longer works there?

As far as I know, Mitchell Baker is still Mozilla's CEO. And even if she resigned, maintaining her salary would have been at odds with keeping many employees from being fired.

>>I criticize unreasonably high salaries on a nonprofit organization that just laid off almost three hundred people

>"you are saying that they can build and manage a development team without executives"

If you want to engage in a discussion or a debate, at least be honest about it.

Mitchell Baker began as CEO in December, after the resignation of Chris Beard. Was permanently appointed CEO in April. Her salary for the position has not been released

Mozilla is a nonprofit, not a charity. Their executives already receive less than market rate for similar companies, by some accounts far less. They can't offer nothing.

I specifically want to fund Firefox, not this kinds of research. I will also pay something for continued Rust development.

Same. Firefox is a great browser.

Except for the memory leaks.

Chrome eats a lot more memory for me than Firefox.

The difference is, chrome allocates what it needs upfront, and that's all it uses. Firefox keeps increasing its usage.

That means that when I want to leave a website open on my server for a month, I use chrome because I know exactly how much memory it's going to use. If it was firefox, at the end of the month even the swap would be filled.

If you try to open something else after that month, does your computer crash or does Firefox happily give up the memory?

The only way to free up the memory is to close firefox. Closing tabs doesn't do anything. I can 'killall firefox' and then reopen it to the same 50 tabs, and the memory usage after they're loaded again will be several GB lower.

I don't know if you count memory exhaustion as a 'crash' per se.

Does opening another program cause system instability? I don't know how you are monitoring it, but it sounds like Firefox is making use of the available ram for a cache. There's no real difference between cache and free memory, so using more is only a good thing.

Yes, it does. Monitoring is easy with htop - just look at the ram and swap usage. Leave FF open too long with too many tabs, and even the swap starts to fill up and the whole computer gets laggy.

This is a well-known problem. What's hard to believe?

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