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Interestingly this is not the first time that the World trade centre was missing/removed from a Spiderman related media. The early rendition of Spiderman at the start of the century had the twin towers in and prior to release 9/11 happened, so a whole scene was removed. Which as you can see for yourself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozz8uxW733Q was no small budget scene either.

On a side note - is it Spiderman or Spider-man? I grew up with the believe that it was the former.

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Feels like the scene doesn't quite work in the finished movie anyway, but yeah it 100% needed to go.

Sam Raimi is a very accomplished director so you don't notice this unless you look, but the CGI buildings in the movie are actually _much worse_ than the ones in the recent PS4 game. It highlights the adage that there's no such thing as bad CGI, just bad filmmaking.

(On the other hand, my daughter pointed out to me that whenever anything exciting happens, every woman screams and no men do and it is impossible to unsee once you notice it.)

> Sam Raimi is a very accomplished director so you don't notice this unless you look, but the CGI buildings in the movie are actually _much worse_ than the ones in the recent PS4 game. It highlights the adage that there's no such thing as bad CGI, just bad filmmaking.

I think the better question to ask is: What CGI effects from 20 years ago can't be achieved in real time today?

Finding Nemo was almost 20 years ago and as I recall, Pixar did a lot of work to reproduce the look of marine animals that have translucent layers to their skin. Seems like a level of detail that real-time engines might not bother with.

But yeah, the Mandalorian used real-time rendering in-camera for a ton of its scenes. They fudged it a bit by using wide apertures so the backgrounds were a bit soft, but it obviously worked very well.

Human skin is translucent too. Real time Sub-surface scattering has existed for years and is now to making it into games. There's an excellent writeup here:

https://therealmjp.github.io/posts/sss-intro/

Realtime reflections seem to be on their way too: https://youtu.be/pNmhJx8yPLk

> On a side note - is it Spiderman or Spider-man? I grew up with the believe that it was the former.

Well, there's a Spider-man related subreddit called "respect the hyphen" so...

Interesting, does seem it's always kinda been hyphenated, yet the aspect that there is a discussion group over it does somewhat show my confusion is not alone, mad but will admit - it is hyphenated as the other comment says - check the comics - it's hyphenated, though a few with it upon two lines and maybe the source of confusion.

If you do a Google image search for "old spider man comic book", you will see the hyphen on most of the covers. A few of them have "Spider" on one line followed by a new line underneath with "Man".

And it's "base ball" dammit.

I've crossed the semantic saturation threshold thinking about it, and now Spiderman looks like a surname.

J.T. Spiderman & Sons, Accounting

Susie Spiderman, Age 5

Arnold Spiderman III, MD

Wow, so Phoebe had it right all along...

https://youtu.be/KyaiJc3ESAI

It’s hyphenated. Just look at the comic cover.

Correct. It’s confusing because most other man-suffixed superheroes do not have hyphens (e.g. Superman) or the hyphen was removed prior to hitting mainstream culture (e.g. Batman).

Marvel tends to use hyphens or spaces (Spider-Man, Ant-Man, Iron Man) while DC usually does compound words (Superman, Batman, Aquaman, although Wonder Woman). I could find no compound wordman superheroes in the lists of Marvel superheroes I found, but there are some -man and (space)man characters in the DC list.

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Wow that was prominent. Yeah they had to remove that or people would have had all kinds of reactions to it at the time.

Almost as prominent as the Nokia phone product placement..

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