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We develop industrial training solutions using the rift S and quest. But the deep linking with FB, the battery downgrades on the quest, etc, all are going to push us away.

For PC-based training sims, we'll probably get the HTC Vive. And the Pico for the quest equivalent.

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They mentioned businesses getting accountless and/or alternative authentication methods in the keynote.

Why should businesses get a pass but not normal users?

Because businesses buy in bulk. Regular users have to make up the difference by trading in personal data.

Couldn't someone set up a "business" that proxy-buys for a large number of people? There's obviously a decent market for non-facebook-login version of the Quest 2.

I'm guessing that will be against the TOS and those devices would be remotely bricked (but that's just conjecture)

Why would you pick Vive over a WMR headset such as the Reverb G2? I can see the Index being a better pick but even the Vive Pro is quite dated now.

Do you have any experience with the Pico? It'd be great to have a non-creepy (and hopefully a bit more open) alternative to the Quest.

>the battery downgrades

I haven't seen anything about this. Only battery news I've seen is they have a new strap system with a battery pack in it.

My understanding is that the battery is the same, but that the new processor and screen draw more power, therefore resulting in less runtime.

Why do care about the Facebook link? You needed an Oculus account previously and a Facebook account now, but there's no forcing of Facebook on you.

You do need a FB account - and a real one at that. If you create a fake one and you get locked out and you can't prove you are that fake person FB will lock you out of the account (and all bought software).

Will the Oculus account continue to work? Otherwise they are forcing Facebook on me.

I think it's fine to not buy a product if you don't want to create an online account

It's fine to buy a product and expect it not to require an intrusive violation of my privacy to use it. I hope lawmakers will completely bar this practice for all devices.

No they are shutting it down.

Some features won't work without an FB account. No one is forcing you to buy this device, but if you do and want to utilize features that require a FB account then it is forced upon you

Since the last update a Facebook account is necessary for essentially everything.

what's the blocker with the FB linking?

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