Belarus opposition leader Maria Kolesnikova 'snatched from street' in Minsk
theguardian.com
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>Kolesnikova’s press aide, Rodnenkov, confirmed her abduction but vanished himself around 40 minutes later
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>Her coordination council colleagues who have disappeared include Anton Rodnenkov, Ivan Kravtsov and Maxim Bogretsov. Her press team is also missing.
Twenty years ago, some leading Belarusian opposition politicians disappeared without a trace. In an exclusive interview with DW, a key witness tells how he assisted a special unit in committing abduction and murder. [0]
And headlines from 20 years ago [2][3]
[0] https://www.dw.com/en/belarus-how-death-squads-targeted-oppo... [1] https://www.dw.com/en/alleged-killer-of-belarus-politician-m...
[2] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jul/20/ameliagentlema... [3] https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/04/world/belarus-sees-its-di...
Or this:
Classified By: AMBASSADOR GEORGE KROL FOR REASONS 1.4 (B,D) 1. (C) Summary: During the first two weeks of May, GOB authorities announced that investigations into the 1999-2000 disappearances of two opposition activists and the 2004 murder of a journalist were suspended. Independent investigator Garry Pogonayilo believes the lack of progress is due to the authorities' own participation in the crimes. Therefore, as long as the Lukashenko regime is in power, the cases will never be "solved." Pogonayilo and international lawyers are building a case against the GOB leadership and hope to get international warrants of arrest for GOB officials suspected in these crimes. End Summary.
And the reason is, that Belarus secret services abducted her on the day of the election, and brought her to the border with Lithuania the next morning.
The foreign minister of Lithuania later confirmed, that her arrival to Lithuania was coordinated with Belarus, not with her. She wouldn't say anything about what happened.
It was the smartest move for Lukashenka: he could neither arrest her, nor let her stay in Belarus, if he wanted to try to avoid the protests. The best option was to make it look like she just ran away, leaving everyone who voted for her to fight for themselves.
I wouldn't be surprised, if the same happens with other Belarus opposition leaders during the next 72 hours.
Disgusting. I hope someone saves the archives and lists of members of security forces, so they can get what they deserve.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-berkut-commander-gets-second...
" the former Berkut riot-police commander in connection with the lethal suppression of the 2013-14 Euromaidan protests. Yet in Moscow, Kusyuk is now a colonel in the Russian Interior Ministry's OMON force and was seen on August 3 overseeing the arrests of demonstrators calling for fair municipal elections in the capital."
Check this one [1], the first 4 photos are of the most famous torturer.
[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%...
The idea is that whenever the crime happens, it can be tried in the country. Even US had a couple of cases where Universal jurisdiction was applied.
414 points in 2 hours, yet pushed to the bottom of the second page for me at the moment.
Yes he is a bad dude (replace with profanity). Democracy is a rumor over there, a fantasy.
edit : [1] https://www.newsweek.com/how-syrias-assad-helped-forge-isis-...
I was just pointing that saying "A part of not assassinating Assad is that he was fighting the extremists (aka ISIS)" is not true, as ISIS was a minor player at the beginning, and as Assad and ISIS shared some interests during the first half of the war, and somehow helped each other. It is not a judgement, it is a fact.
But the vast majority of the population is not religious, so while this matters a bit culturally, it has no impact on current events.
Ethnically, it is rather monolithic, indeed.
And there are no big geographic differences.
Here's most of what I know about the Maidan revolution:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RibAQHeDia8
Favorite quote: "My mother? She's around the corner, making Molotov cocktails". Said by a 13-year-old boy on the street to interviewer, when asked if his mother was worried about him. Filmed with dead body of fellow protester in background.
Our fight is about basic human rights. It's about nation-wide abuse. Everyone in Belarus feel like they being raped and tortured and now the rapist is saying to us - "hey it's your fault that you was raped". A 16-years old boy who was tortured by the police(and it's not a figure of speech https://www.voiceofbelarus.com/how-to-save-timur/) and who was in coma — arrested again.
If your question about the violence from the people - i don't believe it will happen, because this is exactly what Lukashenko wants. He sold us to Russia. We have so-called Union state with Russia where Putin have legal right to move here his troops if people will turn peaceful protests to the so-called Maidan.
Without Russia, Belarus would be free already.
"Deep connections" is an irrelevant argument, and Ukraine also had such connections.
The main advantage now is that nobody is kidding themselves about the level of possible outcomes but this time it’s largely the EU having to take the lead with an unusually passive US government.
By that line of logic, the U.S. "lost" Western Europe at the end of World War II, Mongolia lost Russia after Genghis Khan died and Belarus should return to the dominions of Kiev [1] and Warsaw [2].
It isn't until almost the 19th century, under Catherine the Great, that what is today Belarus fell under Moscow's control [3].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Lithuanian_Commonwealth
And I guess many Russian would feel the West, NATO, USA had been expansionist, as they "aggressively" expand their area of influence (colored revolution being one tactic) in Russia backyard, at the expense of Russia and Russian influence...
In that region no one trusts Russia, and they want to be part of NATO to increase their chances of not being invaded. In fact Ukraine was on track to join it, exactly because they were afraid of Russia.
If you add to that the "colored revolutions", well, it is clear that the West "actively" "attacked" Russia's zone of influence. Not saying it is good or bad, just trying to describe what happened.
[1] https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russi... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlargement_of_NATO#German_reu...
Source?
The things being done to these people in detention are horrible. We just translated an article about a 16-year-old boy beaten into a coma. When he awoke he said he was one of the lucky ones. ( https://www.voiceofbelarus.com/how-to-save-timur/ )
From consistently talking to multiple opposition members, here is my take on the current mindset:
Every single protester on the street is aware that the police are waiting for them to do anything that gives an excuse. Foreigners don't always understand the dictatorships use a two-pronged approach, one part being heavy-handed violence and the other being heavy-handed propaganda. Like it or not, there's always a percentage of the population that buys into the propaganda, either by being stupid or by being centrist.
The protesters are very intentionally being careful to not give any excuse. That's why you see 70-year-old grandmothers walking in the streets wearing pure white, they want the evidence to be obvious when the police shove down and beat grandmother's bloody. They also want it to be impossible for the state to spin them as violent criminals
In short, these people are brave as f*
Many do suspect this will end in all out violence, but everyone knows that would give Russia an internationally acceptable excuse to join the party. The current thinking is Lukashenko may make a mistake (it is widely reported internally that he is on heavy medication and typically takes an entire month away from office following the election period, which has been impossible with the constant mass protests). His family has begun to leave the country, excluding his young son who he takes with him everywhere.
The people are being careful to say, at least for the time being, they do not want him dead, they only do not want him in the country. They're trying to give him every opportunity to flee and leave them to repair their own country
If you want to help, the biggest thing you can do is continue to give them international recognition. Share it on social platforms. After the first wave of violence, the international outcry caused Lukashenko to order the police to temporarily stop the beatings. The protests have continues to grow, and the violence has started again (as we all know, dictators have a really small playbook of possible control tactics). International outrage is more effective than you might realize.
EDIT: For those unaware, IT has grown significantly in Belarus. It's debated why this is the case (e.g. perhaps the dictatorship just does not know how to extract value from a company where seizing assets just leaves you with an empty shell of a previously valuable company), but regardless multiple Belarusians are entering the world stage with a reputation for being competent/capable/innovative with technology. It's been a interesting emergence of a new skilled class. Right now, Lukashenko is squishing that with his actions. Shutting of the internet is one example. Another example is retaliation, such as what is being done to PandaDoc (a Silicon Valley-based company). Their founders are Belarusian. After a statement by the founders, the state retaliated by raiding their Minsk offices and arresting employees. For more info, see https://savepandadoc.org/en/
I guess I visited the site in the past and had some old cache that crashed the site...
The way I see it there is no real opposition leaders, because they are in jail. This women triumvirate, whom were not leaders themselves was probably surprised themselves amount of support they got.
There seemingly is no plan by the opposition, other than hope that the regime turns on the Lukashenko. When that happens and there is no organized opposition, the regime just grows a new head. Which I guess would be a some sort of success.
Democracy (and the values it embodies like freedom of speech and assembly) is an agreement among the elite. If there is no agreement among the elite then democratic values has little chance surviving.
Yesterday, bandits from local militia arrested all the members of the water rescue crew that helped protesters out of the water where they jumped to escape.
The same day the head of the criminal police was photographed shattering the windows of a café where some of the protesters receded.
Yesterday again, a second heavily beaten dead body was found in the woods in what looks like a militia victim.
Merciless criminals took over all police and security forces and they act with total impunity.
How can there be "real opposition leaders" in in a scenario where they are beaten, imprisoned or exiled soon after becoming public figures?
I do think that it's a success they can even demonstrate, the regime is so brutal.
However when I look at further ahead, it feels bleak to me. 1990s criminals and their entourage have became the heads of state, how can you unseat them with leaderless opposition?
Lukashenka is 66, his main killer Pavlichenko is 50. Sheiman, another guy with blood on his hands, is even older. Their kids are grown ups but they have been kept away from state affairs.
I think they will wear out.
I think there is similar situation in Belarus, the criminals are in charge at all levels of state and each city. Sweeping it away without organized opposition requires a miracle.
Is Svyaz some business or government agency?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belarus_High_Technologies_Park
It seems to fit a pattern for this administration. By all accounts I've read this is the way Trump views politics, so his silence is not out of character.
He seems to think he is the one who can "solve" Russia, but he is being played like a fiddle.
I'm getting a little sick in the mouth of the "I'm alright jack" political commentary often seen on hackernews, are you saying it's better to do nothing or should Obama have invaded the Middle East again?
This administration seems to be working towards a diplomatic solution.
They have demonstrated some success with this technique in the past.
https://www.politico.eu/article/us-stands-with-eu-to-push-fo...
edit: removed spurious 'to'
FYI: "U.S. Sanctions on Russia: An Overview" [PDF]
Except of course Putin might invade when the time is right, and no one would do anything about it either. That's his sphere of influence.
"The EU is Belarus' second main trade partner, representing 18.1% of the country's overall trade in goods, reaching almost €11 billion in 2019...increasing by 45% over the last 10 years" [1].
In addition, the U.S. and EU have massive trade relations with Russia. There are many non-military mechanisms for deterring Putin. What's unclear is whether the Belarusians are worth the cost.
[1] https://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/coun...
What would a body cam show, even if it were live streaming to foreign server? The masked face of a thug sent by the government to pick you up and smash your gear?
I fear such malign force can only be overcome by opposing force - either a foreign intervention or an overwhelming popular revolution that is willing to put its people severely in harms way.
Weapon.