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If you spend any time on the Portland subreddit, you'll see plenty of stories and comments about how the city is just fine, and only Trump fans with an agenda push a "rioting and burning narrative". It's amazing watching hypocritical narrative control in action. These are the same people pushing for police body cameras.

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And is there not a selection bias at play in a subreddit? People who don't follow the majority opinions of those on a subreddit are routinely hounded down and mass downvoted until they leave, seeing it's futile to try and converse there.

Of course there is, except I'm sure a lot of the people on that subreddit are also heavily involved in "protesting". There certainly is a selection bias at play in the general population of Portland, too ;)

Edit: I also find it fascinating that the users of the Portland subreddit will shun or ban you if you are not actually in Portland, as I am sure that a lot of those folks strongly favour all immigration in general. As I said, it's a miniature picture of hypocritical narrative control in action.

We favor legal immigration. Have your papers in order, be able to speak coherently and talk to people, and be useful to society. We aren't fond of random fascists coming in from across the Washington-Oregon border, let alone driving in from Idaho, just to have street fights and arguments.

From our perspective, you're just some hateful outsider who has no experience living in a society. If you want our respect, then you need to be a better person, or at a minimum you need to demonstrate that you're capable of being embedded within a societal context.

Can't tell whether this is parody of "cityism" - city level parochialism - or the real thing.

>From our perspective, you're just some hateful outsider who has no experience living in a society.

I'm glad we feel the same way about immigration ;)

Do we? I also think that police officers must live in their precinct. No Portland cop should live in Vancouver.

I also think that legislators are obligated to do their job. No Oregon legislator should live in Idaho.

I also think that you, being a non-Portlander, should not have any voice whatsoever in disputes between Portland's people and its elected leadership. Our problems are between us, and our city council and mayor and cops; you're not a party to it.

Edit: Downvoters, use your words. Show us why you think these points are bogus; explain clearly why you think that you should have a vote in a society which you don't live in.

Oh god people like you are why I left.

You all vote progressive lunatics into office then complain when things go to shit.

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>I also find it fascinating that the users of the Portland subreddit will shun or ban you if you are not actually in Portland, as I am sure that a lot of those folks strongly favour all immigration in general

What's wrong with that? You can be in favour of immigration but still want to have a subreddit for people actually in the town. You're free to move to Portland and join.

>You're free to move to Portland and join.

Unless I'm a bigot, or Californian, right? ;)

I drove through and visited Portland on the way up to Seattle recently. Portland was a damn fine city.

This is just a general observation but the reason I don't enjoy reddit is because it is imo the worst offender of a site that promotes a "mutual admiration society". So maybe that is at play here

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